To all of you toryphobic but lovely mumsnetters...

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I found the tory-dating thread quite interesting. Clearly some people have very strong and deep-seated political views. I couldn't help but wonder: what would you do if your offsprings became conservatives? Would you be disappointed? Would you try to change their opinions at every opportunity? Would you buy them the complete Ken Loach collection? Would you dare admit it to your friends?
And what about their future partners, wouldn't you at least try to love them a little even if they were tories?
For me, I have right wing tendencies but it would probably be fun if DS ended up politically minded and on the left. At least it wouldn't be dull!

I live in ToryHeavenville.
But I still manage to avoid Tory voters.
Why would I not?
Everything they stand for is so wrong.
Cameron is just marching all the vulnerable and poor back to the Victorian slums.

You see how you feel about him and Lansley when you all start feeling the full brunt of them ,in effect ' privatising ' the NHS.

gotcha handbag usual and so am I, deadly serious that is.

and lol, lefties are all drunk. The last recourse for those loosing the argument 'you must all be drunk' Far from it

I certainly wasn't saying "all lefties are drunk". I was just wondering how someone could be so closed minded, arrogant, judgemental and bigoted as to assume they would spot someone's political views on meeting them and decide whether they liked them or not based on what they deduced.

The Lib Dems were never in a position to deliver on that promise, whether they had won the election, gone into coalition with the Labour Party or the Conservatives.

The best thing they could do was to bargin that to get more achievable parts of their manifesto. If you vote on single issues rather than a range, you are always going to run the risk of that policy never being achieved. I think it was always about making the best decision in difficult circumstances and aiming for those things that were most achievable.

In someways I kind of admire the Lib Dems for making that decision and knowing it was akin to suicide in many ways and in the eyes of a lot of voters. I call that far from selling out... I call that a commitment to trying to achieve at least some of the things they believed in at significant risk. A bit of a rarity in an age of popularism and short termism.

I agree with usual. Our rl problems are down to them to. Wanted to use the c* word but not 'in drink' so won't

To be fair I mentioned up thread that I married someone right wing despite being a leftie myself. But admits he was clueless and now gets into big arguments with right swingers with the zeal of a convert.

So I'm a close mined arrogant drunk sanctimonious bigoted fruitloop?

Oh dear

Yes. Oh dear.

Wingers! Offset

Ascribing some of the viewpoints on here to drunkenness is surely the charitable interpretation.

When you resort to name calling, you lose

"When you resort to name calling, you lose"

beyond parody, that

Guarantee they will loose next election

Nobodies "rl problems" are down to the Tories. Just because Labour liked to throw money around (far more than they actually had) doesn't make the Tories "evil" for throwing a little less around and trying to get the countries finances in order. Labour would have had to have done most of the same things were they to have won the last election.

"Guarantee they will loose next election"
If the economy has not recovered by 2015, you might be right. But what will Labour do at that point? Throwing money around again will not be an option.

People's political views are their own business. I don't understand how someone can have such a high opinion of their own powers of deduction that they could spot a Tory from a mile off and decide whether or not they wanted to be friends with them or not. Or, if having met them and got on with them, they would then decide they couldn't possibly continue the friendship because of the box that person ticked in a secret ballot box. I have never voted Conservative and I would never, ever do so. However I'm sure I have friends who do so. My grandfather was a paid up member of the Conservative party. I don't care. This does not make me a lesser person than someone who is such a passionate socialist that they confine their acquaintences and friends to people who vote the same way as they do.

AcquaintAnces.

I couldn't vote labour or marry a Labour voter, you are all so smug.

I can't stand the nanny state, we know better how to spend your money than you do stance of the Labour party.

I don't object to paying reasonable taxes and believe passionately in the National health service.

Ive nothing against gay marriage or immigration. I'm a prochoice atheist, in the USA I'd be a Democrat.

But in Britain I have no choice but to be a rather left wing Conservative.

At the moment I feel labour left us with ridiculous debts and Cameron is making a cack handed mess of sorting it out, messing with benefits and hurting people who have done nothing wrong except be unlucky in life.

I would never be friends with someone that called me a close mined arrogant drunk sanctimonious bigoted fruitloop

Dp is self employed, he works in construction. The government came in and cancelled so many contracts that we have lost £250 a week after tax.

The contracts were to carry out repairs on motorways and bridges. I wonder how many life's that will cost

usual, perhaps you should refer back to first pages on this thread and some of the comments about an essential lack of compassion and generally being evil.

Cos yes. That isn't of the same level.

Regardless of who did it, leaving notes laughing about there being no money left, doesn't reflect well on anyone. There should be a criminal investigation for deliberate and willful mismanagement of public finances for that one. Thats not social responsibility or looking after the best interests of the masses anymore than austerity cuts are.

No one votes for taxes, but we still need them. Thats the problem with politics - popularism sets the agenda, not social responsibilities.

To be fair, you used the words fucking sell out LibDem bastard.

And I believe the words you quoted are your own inference, rather than them having been directed at you personally in this thread.

My real life problems are very much down to the Tories.
I have lost my public sector job that I trained very hard for.
I'm only in my 30s , registered disabled with a chronic illness but can't receive the benefits.
I can't pay my mortgage.
I went into a job for life and they have left me with nothing.
I am desperately trying to get a job.
And I have 2 small children to support.
Thanks Dave.