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To think this teacher isn't coping very well.

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hiddenhome · 10/05/2012 21:11

ds2 is in year 2 and his teacher is young and possibly newly qualified. She's very nice, but I suspect she has been struggling with the behaviour of some of the boys in the class.

ds2 said that the teacher was crying the other day and that she told the class that she would go home upset and crying because of the poor behaviour.

I do sympathise, but we moved ds2 from another school because the teacher wasn't coping and the behaviour was interfering with learning, and now this.

ds2 is very quiet and well behaved and some of the other boys are okay, but some aren't and do act up.

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IvanaNap · 10/05/2012 21:29

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blapbird · 10/05/2012 21:30

Think how stressful a whole day is with just your DC who you love above all else then times that by 28-34 and on top of that they're not your own and you have Ofsted/Head/school managers/formative assessment/planning/gathering resources and being blamed for everything as invisible pressures, I would be more inclined to help her rather than do something that could knock her confidence even further.
How would you feel if you were doing your best and someone went over your head without raising a concern to you first? Dis-empowered? Frustrated, and just human nature will make her less sympathetic to your child-sorry but that's the reality

hiddenhome · 10/05/2012 21:31

Don't want to get anyone into trouble as she's a good teacher. Perhaps I could give it a few more days and see what transpires.

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Ripeberry · 10/05/2012 21:31

Lock them in the cupboard...that will teach them Grin

Sunscorch · 10/05/2012 21:32

Um, *have consquences Blush

hiddenhome · 10/05/2012 21:32

The Head is very good. They've just been inspected and did very well. The staff turnover isn't high from what I can gather.

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serin · 10/05/2012 21:35

Why dont you do something nice and send her some flowers?

blapbird · 10/05/2012 21:37

NEWSFLASH for thoseof you that aren't aware...The Ofsted inspection means bugger all, it is merely indicative of the heads ability to talk the talk, make everything look pretty and prep the children in advance.
Some schools pay £600 for Ofsted advisor's to come in, in advance of inspections and tick all the current boxes which produce brownie points for the inspection. Its such a corrupt system
The sooner we get over this 'in awe of ofsted' thing, the better.

hiddenhome · 10/05/2012 21:38

flowers sounds nice Smile

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hiddenhome · 10/05/2012 21:39

Sad about Ofsted. I work in care homes and understand what a farce the inspection process can be.

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CremeEggThief · 10/05/2012 21:41

Very tough one, OP. I don't think you should go to the Head just yet. Maybe there is something else going on in addition to the poor behaviour and that's what tipped her over the edge?
Obviously, it's your call, but think about monitoring the situation as much as you can (you're very lucky to have a DC who actually confides in you about school, btw) for now. If it happens again, you probably will need to take it further with the Head, but try to approach it from a 'concerned for teacher and worried she isn't getting enough support with such a lively class ' angle. I'm sure you will word it sensitively, as it does sound as if you are genuinely concerned for her, as well as your DC's education.

ShellyBobbs · 10/05/2012 21:41

I work at the other end of the market with older people, some have mental illness and it can be really tough, sometimes I feel like crying when they scream, spit and swear in my face, however as a professional I would at least walk out of a room to compose myself.

It really isn't your problem why she is crying and telling 7 year olds that they make her sad and cry at home, not at all. It's a tough job, but so is nursing terminally illl people or working with abused families. In fact, I would hate to be a doctors receptionist judging by the amount of flack they get at my doctors :)

I don't necessarily agree that she is a cost saver, on the flip side she is newly trained and has a lot to offer being relatively fresh from uni. She definitely needs pulling up on it one way or the other, but I would not recommend speaking to other parents as you may be seen to be spreading gossip, playgrounds are a bitch-fest at the best of times and someone may take you wrong.

Hope it gets sorted for everyone including her.

serin · 10/05/2012 21:44

Could she just be joking?

hiddenhome · 10/05/2012 21:49

I did wonder if she was joking, but ds said she had been crying, so I didn't think it was Sad I dunno. I'll wait a bit longer. I wouldn't feel comfortable going to the Head tbh. The Head is very proactive and don't seem to be the sort of person who'd hire to save money. He's very involved. ds2 said that he came and took over the class the other day ? because the teacher wasn't coping. He must be aware if he did that.

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hiddenhome · 10/05/2012 21:50

I just remembered that he came along. I asked ds if he told the boys off and was he strict and ds said that he wasn't too strict with them.

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blapbird · 10/05/2012 21:51

I have worked with children for many years and I have once or twice said 'you are making blapbird feel very sad when you do that'
Its just trying to expand their egocentric view of the world and getting them to see the effects of their behaviour on others.
May not be skilful but ask your self have you dealt with EVERY situation with your kids perfectly?
She will get better with support and nurturing just as children do.

ShellyBobbs · 10/05/2012 21:52

Hmmmm, very strange.

CremeEggThief · 10/05/2012 21:54

Yes, it does sound as if the Head is already aware then. Sorry, not really sure what else to suggest. Probably best not to mention it to other parents.

ShellyBobbs · 10/05/2012 21:55

blapbird Saying that is quite reasonable it's very different than sitting there crying saying that the childrens behavior is making you cry at home. I know for a fact my 7 year old would be very upset about that and brood about it because she is a little sensitive soul, especially when she's tired at bedtime.

hiddenhome · 10/05/2012 21:56

No, I don't bother with the other parents (antisocial) Grin

I guess it'll be the holidays soon anyway.

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ShellyBobbs · 10/05/2012 21:58

I don't envy you hidden

hiddenhome · 10/05/2012 21:59

why's that ShellyBobbs?

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blapbird · 10/05/2012 22:01

yes but you don't know the context to which this was said, it could have been a joke, children aren't always the most reliable source the child I nanny for told his mum the other day that I said he can tread in cat poo because his mum will clean it up (he is 3 and I have never said anything remotely like this in my life) Fortunately my employer trusts me and we communicate well.

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