AIBU to think that titles are old fashioned and should be scrappped?

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A thread has drawn attention to the fact that Driving Licences include Miss/Ms/Mrs for women, but no Mr for men. Do you think that titles are outdated and should be scrapped?

Personally I like being called Mrs X/Madam as appropriate, is this old fashioned?

Is it wrong that there is no title to denote a single/divorced man?

Do you still use Master for young boys, at what age do they become Mr?

Maybe you don't give a flying **either way, with far more pressing issues to worry about.

Do any Misses out there hate the title and use Ms instead?

If they use the title Ms they're not a Miss, are they?

When I was single I was a Miss because I wasn't married - it was a statement of fact. When I got married I became a Mrs - again it is a statement of fact. I don't understand the problem.

There is no problem to you. However I am now single and am a Ms - it is a statement of fact. When I marry I will also be a Ms - it is a statement of fact. I don't understand the problem.

My dd is 19 and put Ms JAY on a form once i wanted to slap her she is a miss I do think its needed though and not old fashioned its how we distinguish people ,

Presumably if she put Ms she is a Ms.

Why do you feel the need to know whether women are married or not? Sounds a bit nosey and curtain twitchy to me.

curtain twitchy thats a fab insult i must remember it in future, my daughter is not married and my comment was a bit tongue in cheek , people can call themselves whatever they want its a non issue and I wouldnt call somebody i dont know by their first name , so a Ms MRSor MR or Dr or REv would be an advatage thats all ,

ime Ms tends to be used by Misses who are a bit chippy because they would prefer to be Mrs. I honestly don't know any married women who prefer to call themselves Ms, even in business.

Mrs Jay makes some very good points. And I will add, if my dr's receptionists call my dr, dr surname rather than first name, then I expect them to call me Mrs surname rather than firstname surname. Simply because I am not subordinate to another human being and I don't expect to be addressed in a way that is less respectful than the way my dr is addressed. If people want to be called ms, let them be but I don't see the need for it. I certainly don't see the need for informality to some parts of society and formality to other parts by those who think they are superior.

I think you put it much better than i did married thats exactly what i was meaning ,

I am a married woman, always been a Ms and always will be (unless I ever get round to that PhD!)
Nowt to do with being chippy, I thought your username was ironic marriedinwhite but now I see it just expresses your point of view!

Married, quite a few of us on this thread are married and prefer to be called Ms. You might not know us in RL, but you know us virtually! :)

Iggi/miw I am also a married woman who uses Ms at all times (did before marriage too). Several women I know and/or work with do the same.

I was Miss then I got married and now I'm a Mrs. I don't mind that. They are just shortened versions of Mistress.
However, I understand other people may prefer to use Ms or nothing at all.

I don't like being called Madam it makes me feel old (I'm in my twenties, just).

On the phone people usually ask what I'd prefer and then I don't mind them using my first name. If they don't ask then they are swiftly corrected to Mrs X.

With Master and Mister. My DBro was Master on his bank statements til he was about 15. Him and my dad and several other generations have exactly the same name, that was the only reason.

Everything else was ok as my dad is usually known by a less formal version of the name with a different initial.

I actually think that important forms eg,bank applications etc, shouldn't ask for a title. For men, there is no indication with 'mr' of their personal situation, whereas with 'miss/mrs' there is. Ok we have 'ms' but to most people that just screams divorced!

I hate using titles. I've started using Dr as at least it is unisex and says nothing about my marital status. I do worry about sounding like a wanker, but Ms makes my skin crawl. I'd prefer it if everyone used my first name.

Mrs is a contraction of Mistress, and Mr is a contraction of Master....

However, that aside, I used to detest being called 'Miss' when I was young and unmarried. I insisted on 'Ms' as I decided that my marital status was not anyone else's concern. I almost had an argument with a customer in my 20's on the telephone when he asked for my name and I said it was 'Firstname Secondname' - he said, "Is that Mrs or Miss?"
'It's Ms'
'Well, I don't know if you're married or not'
'And that has nothing to do with the issue I am assisting you with'

I don't run away screaming now I am Mrs but I think we should just go with Ms or Mr.

I thought your title said "to think that titties are old fashioned and should be scrapped" and was going to say YABU!

[Glances lovingly at cherished and very modern titties]

ime Ms tends to be used by Misses who are a bit chippy because they would prefer to be Mrs. I honestly don't know any married women who prefer to call themselves Ms, even in business.

They're probably chippy because people like you insist on spreading these daft and bigoted stereotypes. There are many married women who prefer the title Ms.

Maybe those poor, poor chippy singletons could turn to you married for advice on finding nice husbands.

I wonder what they're doing wrong? :(

I am married and a Ms. I am definitely chippy though

Good lord married, you must move in very restricted and old fashioned circles if you don't know any married women who prefer Ms.

I am a married Ms btw.

im married and use ms, i just use it because i havent changed to dh last name so i dont want to be "mrs my last name" cos that sounds weird to me, so i have gone for ms

OK all of you who like Ms even though you are married, if your dh gets a "gong" are you gong to insist on remaining Ms

I'm a Ms . because my marital status is no ones buisness

I'll stay Dr if DH gets a 'gong'*. If I didn't have the Dr option, I'd still go with Ms. If I have to have a title, it should be my title, not one that comes from my marital status.

• DH would turn one down if offered, so it doesn't matter. Not that he's ever going to have to worry about the decision.

Well then damsel as you like your title, I trust you have sufficient respect to address our patients by theirs whilst expecting them to use yours. I hope you don't regard your patients to be so insubordinate that they can use yours whilst you use their first name. Presuming of course that you are a medical doctor.

I don't believe in the current honours system, but if anyone's getting a 'gong' in this household it's more likely to be me.