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To want to know where the chicken I buy comes from

45 replies

bijou3 · 09/05/2012 08:58

One of the big supermarket chains buys its chicken from Thailand and uses it in its sandwiches I find this really off putting as I don?t think that Thailand will not have the same strict hygiene laws that the UK or EU have. The supermarkets should label where the country of origin is on their produce as I like to buy British as much as possible. AIBU?

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bijou3 · 09/05/2012 10:12

The meat from Thailand is BANNED in the UK what is there not to understand geez

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AbsofAwesomeness · 09/05/2012 10:15
  1. how do you know the chicken was from Thailand?
  2. How do you know the chicken was cooked in Thailand?

Pretty simple questions. No reason to get all rude and obnoxious

UnChartered · 09/05/2012 10:15

i don't need to understand anything about shitty meat in tesco sarnies, i'm a freaking vegetarian ffs

and yes, how do you know the meat is from Thailand?

AbsofAwesomeness · 09/05/2012 10:17

Ban is ending soon

Presumably, if the chicken was from Thailand, and it is banned in the EU, then the super market that you bought this fabulous, controversial sandwich from, might be in violation of the EU ban, so you should report them to the Food Standards Agency.

GrahamTribe · 09/05/2012 10:28

If you can believe anything the RSPCA says and provided that you bear in mind that the UK "Freedom Foods" mark is only an indication that the food production company aspires to the standards and not necessatily that they meet them, this makes interesting reading, Callisto.

www.independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-drink/news/thai-chicken-better-than-most-british-production-says-rspca-2124580.html

CallMeAl · 09/05/2012 10:30

If the meat is banned in the UK, then thats not where it came from.

You seem very confused. Make your own damn sandwiches. Or buy a ham sandwich. Or, get over yourself.

bijou3 · 09/05/2012 10:35

www.independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-drink/news/crackdown-ordered-on-food-label-loopholes-1520387.html

As such, they can legally label chicken sandwiches as "Produced in the UK", even if the chicken has come from intensive poultry sheds in Thailand, because they have placed the chicken between bread and, similarly, sell ready meals containing cheap foreign pork.

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GrahamTribe · 09/05/2012 10:38

You do know the answer to this, don't you bijou? Stop eating meat. It's a win-win solution.

AbsofAwesomeness · 09/05/2012 10:39

So, cooked meat can be imported from Thailand apparently.

So, if you want your chicken sandwich to be 100% British produce, then presumably you check the label like crazy and make sure that all the products listed do have their country of origin (because if they don't, then they're from outside the Eu) OR make your own sandwich.

If a sandwich is made in the UK then yes, it is "produced" in the UK. If the sandwich was made in Thailand (as in, there was someone in Thailand cooking chicken and sticking it between slices of thai bread) then it would be labelled as "produced" in Thailand, as that's there the sandwich (the finished product) was produced.

UnChartered · 09/05/2012 10:41

OP, remember the campaign by Jamie Oliver and HFW a few years ago, about free-range chicken and eggs? this was highlighting the issue in your linked article - the only way to get supermarkets to change is to stop buying the shite they are churning out

UnChartered · 09/05/2012 10:42

and by definition, to 'produce' a sandwich, yes, you put it together

you 'produce' it out of other ingredients

the best ones being non-animal based

imogengladheart · 09/05/2012 10:43

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bijou3 · 09/05/2012 10:43

I have stopped buying food from T. I thought I would share what I found on here as I thought it was wrong for supermarkets to sell banned food, obviously others are not as bothered as I am.

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UnChartered · 09/05/2012 10:44

but we ARE bothered, OP

so much so we don't buy it. At All

bijou3 · 09/05/2012 10:49

You might not buy it but I am sure there are others, like myself who would like to know, hence my reason for posting. :(

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AbsofAwesomeness · 09/05/2012 10:50

I don't buy sandwiches from supermarkets.

What the supermarket has done (given on the facts provided) is legal. the ban (which is being lifted) is on raw meat. There is a quota on cooked meat, but supermarkets can still buy it. Labelling something as being "produced" somewhere is about where the final product is produced. If you have a cake, for instance, which is baked in the UK, it will be labelled as "produced" in the UK, as that is where it was produced. But the flour could be made from wheat grown, harvested and processed in Russia. The eggs could be from France, the milk from Germany, the sugar from Trinidad etc. etc.

bijou3 · 09/05/2012 10:52

Yes, its called a loophole !!!

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AbsofAwesomeness · 09/05/2012 10:55

Or it's called "we don't want labels that are bigger than the actual product".

So what level of labelling would you like? For each ingredient in the bread, the mayonnaise, the chicken, any spices/herbs used on the chicken, the name of the chicken, it's (former) favourite meal?

As others have said, if animal welfare and food hygiene are of major concern to you, then don't buy cheap sandwiches from supermarkets, make your own.

Callisto · 09/05/2012 10:57

Thanks for that Graham - the RSPCA are not my favourite charity and I take most of what they say with a pinch of salt. But if that is true then it is good news for Thai chickens. I still wouldn't buy imported meat though, even from the EU but that is because I prefer low food miles and the animals I eat to be free range and have a nice life until I eat them, if that makes sense.

OP, look for the little red tractor logo on your food packaging. It guarantees that it was grown/produced in the UK.

Callisto · 09/05/2012 10:59

Oh, and Abs is correct about the food labling fiasco in her post ^

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