i have joined here because i am going insane or nagging or losing the plot over messy bedrooms. DD is 11, DS is 9, yet washing thrown around rooms, nothing put away, i ground them 9 form attending youth club for one night)but still nothing changes. i don't want to do the 'mum shouting every weekend' or 'god she at again'. I would really appreciate some positive advice or other mums tried and tested approaches