To be a little huffy because ds has the word "apologize" on his spellings list?

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I am fanatical to the point of obsession appropriately passionate about the use of English and grammar.

This hurts

All Penguin (and Puffin) books use the -ize spelling.

People really do need to sort out their greek from their latin and then we can get rid of people saying they saw the lady doctor and instead they can say the saw the doctrix .

Ofsted really does need to pull it's finger out and sort those teachers out. :)

Haven't read the whole thread, but if you check OED you'll find '-ize'. '-ise' is now the dominant UK spelling, but isn't the 'correct' one; Oxford house style does & always has preferred the '-ize' form. Doesn't mean the teacher isn't rellying on a US spell checker, but this horror of American English is often based on misconceptions. Strictly speaking, either spelling is correct in UK English.

Novack you WERE being ironic when you wrote it's instead of its, weren't you?

And Greek from their Latin.

Apologize just looks wrong.

It makes me faintly uncomfortable too.... but If you are a reader of the Morse books, that crossword pedant and over-educated Oxford scholar explains that he uses the "ize" suffix as it is (as previously explained) the more correct sprelling.

If it's OK with Morse, I suppose it's OK with me.

It's weird how strongly some people feel about Oxford spellings.

Cambridge grad, are you?

Next class will be on the Oxford comma.

[echt] No I was being lazy because I couldn't be bothered to chain keyboard for to capitalize. Muhahahahhaha

apologize is the OED version.

so YABU

Or even change it...Blinking predictive text.

I have found that there's a pattern.

it seems to be -ize if it was a noun first: real - realize, apology - apologize.

-ize was Brit English first

I always use "ize" as the august (aka stuffy) scientific journals I write for insist upon it as the correct form for UK English as per the ODE. The "ise" ending is a recent development in the UK as far as I know. I was told I was under the misconception that "ize" is an Americanism - its just that they took it with them from England in the 17th century and have stuck with it.

i was using -ize before i'd even heard of computers - my grammar/spelling was learned from a 1940s complete self-educator, written and printed in England.

Ruby -= yes, and he actually solved a crime based on a written note that has -ize - he said it proved it was an educated man, not the handyman as was suspected.

Personally I think they should be taught the conventional English spellings at primary.

However, I do not think the alternatives should be marked wrong, since I'm dyslexic and spell checkers or copying the word from the article is often the best I can do.

Also for doing Google searches etc. It's very useful to know both.

I am currently in 'discussion' about this with someone who refused to believe that 'ize' is perfectly correct.

Hurrah!

My dictionary says both are acceptable. I would have gone for ise as I tend to put ise at the end for everything to distinguish from American English and for consistency.

Slightly off track but is anyone else annoyed with Americanisms on UK news programmes? Heard the sports presenter on BBC breakfast say the other day someone was a "shoe in" for the job. Really found it annoying.

Been there steamingnit - on both sides of that 'discussion'! Now I feel superior know better and stick with 'ize'

But I also as someone said above hate hate hate sulfur!

I never apologize for spelling sulphur properly.

Glitter - you couldn't have sounded more condescending if you'd tried. That's me told then - well done you!