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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

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To not want a slippery colleague to get away with murder...

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KatoPotato · 30/04/2012 20:31

... When I have no proof of his lack of work?

Now, I have been asked to produce a report of admissions outcomes for q1 and to compare this with my colleagues visiting activity to see if there's correlation month on month and if so he will get a nice bonus...

However, every week he is supposed to submit a weekly activity/visit report which he has never yet done. This data should be the basis of my report however he's now been asked to produce this data for me.

I've no idea where he goes every day, his product knowledge is dire and he often forgets to take his bloody sales aid with him!

I am now worried that he's going to ask to see the admissions report and basically use this to provide 'his' data? To make things worse he insults my intelligence on daily basis with rubbish excuses and lies so I can totally predict hell ask me to do this and think I've no idea he might use it to generate his data!

My DH says I've to 'suck it up' as I have no proof he will actually do this and have no proof he's not been to the sites that have referred?

AIBU in not wanting to show him the admissions report? Anyone have any good excuses for not running him off a copy? As I see it I'd be giving him 'the answers' and hell get paid a couple of thousand for it?

Any advice would be hugely appreciated!

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cocoachannel · 30/04/2012 20:33

I would concentrate on my own career and stay out of it. If he is as bad as you say it will catch up with him eventually. Don't make an enemy out of a weasel.

Portofino · 30/04/2012 20:34

Can you not just refuse if he asks? Or say it is confidential? Or say you haven't done it yet?

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KatoPotato · 30/04/2012 20:34

Thanks for reading! So if he asks for a report just run him one off? (if I get time)

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TheSkiingGardener · 30/04/2012 20:45

Depending on how much effort you plan to put in then could you not mistakenly transpose some of the figures? Then correct it after you've run him off a copy?

Gigondas · 30/04/2012 20:47

Surely if he has meant to visit places and hasn't he will ultimately be caught out (a client will say something, expenses won't add up etc) so will get caught out in the end.

SerialKipper · 30/04/2012 21:06

I like TheSkiingGardener's idea.

Alternatively (but risks making enemy of weasel, as so aptly described):

"Certainly, I can let you have a copy of the overall report I'm doing when I submit it to The Bosses. But of course I'll need your weekly reports in order to write it. And if you submit them by the end of next week I can cover for the fact that you haven't been submitting weekly as you're supposed to."

Or to the person who will be receiving your report:

"Oh sorry to keep you waiting for that, I'm just waiting for X to give me his weekly activity reports. He said he wanted to see the admissions report first, is that OK?"

SerialKipper · 30/04/2012 21:08

Variation of TSG's idea: give him a different quarter's admissions report "by mistake". With headers missing because of misprinting, or something.

WhereYouLeftIt · 30/04/2012 21:11

^"every week he is supposed to submit a weekly activity/visit report which he has never yet done."
Why has he never been picked up on this?

EverybodysSleepyEyed · 30/04/2012 21:35

i wouldn't give it to him if he asks - use whatever excuse fits best from those listed above

Then in the report where you are comparing your data each week just put the admissions data you have and "Visiting date not received"

In my office I would feel comfortable enough to mention this to my boss. Would you feel able to say "I've been trying to gather the data but I haven't managed to get the weekly reports from him, do you think you could have a word as I am running out of time to complete the report"

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KatoPotato · 30/04/2012 22:34

Thanks for all your thoughts guys. We are based in Glasgow but both report to different divisions within the company. I'm only part time so if I can tell him I need his data by X and avoid any admission report based chat I wont be back in the office to actually do this for him. Come Monday I can ask for his data and if there is none I will inform my line management that I am still awaiting from him.

He's avoided weekly reports by claiming that its not applicable in Scotland (one tiny field on a spreadsheet) but he's been told to backdate this data - quote him: 'I'll paste it from the stuff I give you!'

Recently had an issue with him calling me Babe in front of other staff too... He's a bloody nightmare!!

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EverybodysSleepyEyed · 30/04/2012 22:36

You have no loyalty to this guy - if you allow him to falsify the report then it could look very bad for you if it all comes out. You need to be ruthless!!!

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KatoPotato · 30/04/2012 22:42

On further thought I reckon I can baffle him with false technology claims. He's the most computer illiterate person ever so I'll tell him it's a complicated process that I've just no time to do considering I have this report to produce on top of my usual workload.

Or I could run off a report in date reverse that would definately see him caught out if the visit dates are post referral?

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EverybodysSleepyEyed · 30/04/2012 22:57

I would just tell him he can't have it

if you get too machiavellian you could end up getting bitten on the arse!!

BlueRinse · 30/04/2012 23:08

In email:

"Sorry but the report is not available to you at this point in time. Can you please submit your report by X to me so I can finalize"

First email is to him and then once x has passed you need to pick up the first email and send reminder with a new deadline of tomorrow afternoon, blind CC your line manager.

Keep going and avoid sending him any report, if he questions it tell him technical changes have stopped you being able being able to finalize anything without his report.

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KatoPotato · 30/04/2012 23:19

The pillock has taken enough of my brain space up today! I'll let you know how I get on tomorrow

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tallwivglasses · 30/04/2012 23:28

I haven't a clue what you're on about but the email sounds good to me.

There was a great thread a while back from an OP who was being undermined and gaslighted (lit?) by a male worker - different situation but some really good advice. I can't remember a single word in the thread title, sorry.

Anyway, the gist was to record everything on email and (subtly) get collegues on-side. Hope you get it sorted, he sounds very annoying.

AnonyMaw · 30/04/2012 23:41

Can you produce 2 versions of the report, one with subtle but whopping errors in it for your weasel colleague, then a correct one which you submit?

Softlysoftly · 30/04/2012 23:47

Don't mess about with fake/misleading reports you could get in the shit yourself. Just ignore the requests and state again and again "I need your figures" when they don't arrive tell your managers you can't produce that line of the report as you have never received figures from him. Leave it to them to sort him out.

toofattorun · 01/05/2012 07:47

Office bullshit. Fuck me, it's shit like this that makes me glad I am not back in the City.

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