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To be perplexed that MIL seems to have taken offence by my honest reply to her question

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deliciousdevilwoman · 25/04/2012 11:47

I had an awkward telephone exchange with My MIL last night, and running it by DH hasn't really helped-either for me to feel better, or make sense of it!
Apologies in advance-for being waaaaay more verbose than I need to be!

It concerns my birthday, which is at the end of May. MIL sometimes gives me a generous cheque in a card, and one or two gifts to open. Or sometimes, it is just one big present. She is lovely and we get along very well. The gifts are always thoughtful, and she can be very generous. I am always very appreciative-even if on a few occasions, particularly in recent years, what she has bought me hasn't really been my thing.

I am of the mindset that if someone wants to buy me a gift then great. I enjoy surprises. It is the thought. Trite-maybe, but true. I feel uncomfortable with people saying "What would you like"....except maybe for DH. MIL never does this, she usually arranges to come round near the date (DH and I usually take the other away somewhere for our birthdays) and gives me whatever she has bought.

A few weeks ago, MIL said, "We need to think about your birthday"....as she is going on holiday in the middle of May. It made me uncomfortable, and I side stepped the issue. I told her (truthfully) that she has done so much for us, and not to worry about it. She insisted she wanted me to think about what I would like. I said I always like what she has given me- (insert small white lie emoticon!)

I have recently booked a week in Rome for me and DD-we fly out on my birthday. DH can't make it due to work commitments, but is cool with us going. I think MIL was taken aback (although not necessarily disapproving) that we were going and leaving DH behind when she phoned and heard it for the first time yesterday.

She then asked me again what I would like for my birthday. I said that if she was stuck for ideas, some money I could use towards my spending money for Rome, would be really helpful-and that DH would be doing so this year. Her tone really changed. There was a bit of a protracted pause, and she said "I'll take it under consideration" in a very clipped manner.....she then went on to say she had picked up a couple of nice but inexpensive things from a second hand designer shop as presents " I won't be offended if you don't like them. Just say, and I will give them to charity" . She is bringing them round on Friday.

I don't get it! Why she would a) ask me what I want when she has clearly already bought a few bits b) be miffed that when pressed, I suggested money would be helpful. I suppose for me, that if I ask someone what they would like for their birthday/Christmas, I don't get offended (maybe sometimes slightly disappointed) if they say money. I'd rather they have something they want/would help than make my focus about the pleasure of choosing.

I feel Like I have committed a major faux pas, but I am not totally clear why. I just wished she'd not asked me, and just proceeded the way she usually does. I feel uncomfortable, but I also feel upset that I have offended her.

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wineandroses · 25/04/2012 11:55

Perhaps she thinks asking for money is a bit crass? Not that I agree - she asked you more than once, and you told her. I'd be inclined to ignore any slight frostiness; just be bright and breezy with her.

deliciousdevilwoman · 25/04/2012 11:57

Thanks Wine-bright n breezy-yes-I can pull that off ;)

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MeconiumHappens · 25/04/2012 11:58

Some people are just a bit funny about requests for money as presents, particularly those of the older generation. I wouldnt worry about it, just carry on a you usually do other years and let her get whatever she likes.

Morgan · 25/04/2012 12:02

I agree be very grateful for the gifts she has got and be bright and breezy and hopefully it will blow over ( pun intended !)

seeker · 25/04/2012 12:03

I would be bright and brezy- she'll get over it.

But I would be a bit frosty with someone who asked for money- probably completely irrational, but there you go! I would get over it very quickly, though.

girlywhirly · 25/04/2012 12:13

She is still not happy with you going away without DH. Perhaps she feels this isn't right, and that DH is putting up with it (even though he approves) so doesn't want to give you birthday money to spend on something she doesn't agree with. But this is I feel her problem.

I don't think YABU, really it is none of MIL's business where or how you spend holidays or your birthday. I think possibly she was hoping to supplement the things she already has for you with something else, perhaps from her holiday (hand-made jewellery or something) and celebrate with you. She might have had this idea in her head and then was thrown a bit when you revealed your plans.

If I were you I'd be extra nice to her and gush about the clothing, make a lot of them, and also emphasise how much DD is looking forward to Rome so that MIL would seem really mean to make a fuss about DH not going.

halcyondays · 25/04/2012 12:15

I think asking for money can be seen as a bit rude.

deliciousdevilwoman · 25/04/2012 12:15

Thanks All.

I am sure she will get over it. I will keep things light, bright and breezy. And Seeker-"Frosty" is the more apt description of her demeanour on the 'phone.

I will definitely wax lyrical about the presents-whatever they are, DH is sooo concrete-he said if I don't like them I should say "Thanks MIL, lovely thought, but not really my thing, and I'd hate for you to waste your money". Jaysus! That would go down like a lead balloon, coupled with the money comment.
My MIL's feelings/good opinion of me, matters to me more than being truthful-in a situ like this.
I can see how she might have seen my reply as crass

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NoraHelmer · 25/04/2012 12:21

My MIL always gives me money so I can buy something for myself. She has no idea what I like, and would rather I find something than try to guess.

My father always gives money to me for myself and for the DC because it saves him from having to think about buying presents.

So two different attitudes towards gifting money.

redwineformethanks · 25/04/2012 12:27

I can see you didn't intend to cause offence, but I can see why she was unhappy. She may feel that by asking for money you're suggesting you don't like the presents you've received in the past (may be true but no one likes to be told that)

Could you change tack a bit by suggesting something you would really like to buy in Rome and that you would like to choose that as your present ?

Many older people don't like giving money, as they feel it just goes into the household slush fund and ends up being used for the gas bill. A giftcard can be a good compromise

wolvesdidit · 25/04/2012 12:30

I think she thinks you don't like the previous gifts she has bought you. Also, if she does not work it may be that buying gifts is a big thing for her.

Floggingmolly · 25/04/2012 12:40

You told her to use her discretion as you usually love the gifts she chooses, yet when pressed suggested money. 1). Asking for money is very crass, and
2). It meant she then saw right through your "little white lie" and was obviously quite hurt.

laptopwieldingharpy · 25/04/2012 12:42

Good advice.
Just remember to bring back a nice present for her as a payback!
Something typically Italian chic like some Santa Maria Novella perfume/candles

Where are you going? Tuscany has loads of nice reasonably priced antiquey shops where you can find beautiful enameled snuff boxes, crosses, medals etc...

deliciousdevilwoman · 25/04/2012 12:49

I don't think she thinks I don't like her previous presents-I do in the main-she's got great taste....esp when she sticks to perfumes, face creams/make up, bags and hand made jewellery. She knows her brands and has a great sense of style-for herself and when choosing for others'.

Sometimes though, she can get it spectacularly wrong-eg for her older DGC (not my DC). I think she sometimes has a tendency to make choices underpinned by her own tastes-classic and quality-as opposed to visualising whether it's really the receipients' thing. I know she has been hurt (and understandably so) when ex DIL has handed things -usually clothing items back she has bought the DGC with a note saying "Thank you, but they don't like it"

Where I am concerned -the odd dodgy thing-such as a random, fake fur stole- I have smiled and thanked her warmly, and made sure she has seen it on me at least once (before consigning to the back of the wardrobe)

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deliciousdevilwoman · 25/04/2012 12:53

Laptop-of course I will bring her back a lovely present, irrespective of what she gives or not. :)

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boschy · 25/04/2012 12:57

I dont think asking for money was crass, as she has given you a cheque in the past. I would go with the "I'd really love to choose something in Rome" line if she asks you again. I think she's shocked you are going away without DH (even though that's fine for you and him!)

bluebellewood · 25/04/2012 16:02

Is it just possible that she was hoping you would say " The best present I could hope for, is if you accompany DD and I on our holiday to Rome?"

Just a thought!

deliciousdevilwoman · 25/04/2012 16:18

LOL@Bluebellewood! Nooo. She is off on her hols with Step FIL on 13th May-back on 27th. We go whilst she's away.

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AgentProvocateur · 25/04/2012 16:24

Why don't you call her back and say, "I've been thinking - what I'd really like for my birthday is a guide book about Rome (or a washbag or sunglasses or whatever). I think she probably enjoys shopping and buying you something nice. She sounds like a lovely MIL. Mine is too - I only realised how lucky I was when I started reading about others on here.

MsVestibule · 25/04/2012 16:41

My DM disapproves of my DH going away at the beginning of April every year for a boy's golfing weekend. She disapproves of him spending family money and time away from our two young DCs so do I, but after 5 years have learned to accept it.

His birthday is at the beginning of March, and every year she asks me what he would like for his birthday. Every year, I say money. Every year she says "but he'll just spend it in his golf holiday" (I can hear the cats bum mouth over the phone.) Every year, I say "but it stops him from taking more family money, so it benefits me too. Every year, he gets money in his card.

So, completely projecting my family dynamics on to yours, my guess is that she disapproves of you holidaying without he's DS and therefore doesn't want to contribute to it!!!

deliciousdevilwoman · 25/04/2012 16:44

Thanks Agent. I don't think I'll call her-would like the dust to settle a bit ifyswim. She is coming around on Friday with some bits she bought-if there's an opening-ie she mentions the birthday thing again, then I will say as you suggest.
She is really lovely-and I hate that I may have put her back up-however fleetingly.

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deliciousdevilwoman · 25/04/2012 16:49

Mrs Vestibule-you may well be right, although she is a forward thinking person on the whole! She knows that before I met DH, I holidayed both alone and took my DTS's (now adult-from a previous relationship) abroad a few times-so I don't think it's concern about a woman being away on her own with a v young DGD-more that DH has to stay behind whilst we are having a ball in Rome (DH and I went together pre DD in 2008).

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