AIBU to think being poor dose not mean you can't be clean

[Mrbojangles1]

To think when people live like this it's about being dirty not POOr

I have seen doumentrys of people who live in mud huts who would not dare there place in that state

To clean ones home costs nothing whatever type of home you have

I am sick of people useing poverty as a excuse to be dirty buggers

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2134196/Pictured-The-modern-day-poverty-Kentucky-people-live-running-water-electricity.html

(And my sister's 6 bed house is a filth pit BTW, last time I vsiited I went upstairs to find that one of my boys and her son were in a room where there was cat shite over the floor that had dried. I am poor but there is no dried cat shite on my carpet)

Peacy it must be very sad to see grandad living like that

Is their no one in the family he would let clean up for him a bit

I agree with composhat, some people in this country are so poor that they cannot heat their water to have a bath or wash their clothes. i don't see anything funny about it and I don't think you should judge people either, it's bloody awful that people have to live like that.

actually, I can't see the point of the article at all. Nice pictures, but I really wasn't clear what I was supposed to be judging about. The dirty house, the poor people, the teenage single mothers, the rusty car, what?

Yes, Mum, my Aunt and I go in when we can.

But Mum has mobility probs herself, doesn't drive and lives in a different town; Aunt is sole carer for her MIL who ahs dementia and I live in a different part fo the UK and ahve 2 autistic kids myself to care for so there is a limited amount we can do, and even a day there makes little headway- indeed Mother spent a few days there and Grandad just went and brought all the rubbish back in when she left. Grandad has always been paranoid (I suspect ASD, to be honest) and won't let many people beyond his front door. When he does- well DH went around to help with the electrics which are deadly and Grandad turned on him and threw him out for 'meddling'. Unless Gradnad develops dementia, there is little anyone can do.

there is a reason why they put the photo of the cluttered, unswept bachelor kitchen in a trailer at the top and that is because it is the worst. The photos further down show ordinary people without much money and their homes and shops look alright to me. Look at the effort they are putting into getting their teenagers dressed up for the school prom. I suppose the "dirty buggers" you wrote in your OP refers to the first man and his kitchen and people who live like that - but not the rest of the people on there. It looks to me like a poor place with a hardy, down to earth population and one man's cluttered up, unclean kitchen.

I think his home doesn't mean much to him (or to him and his family, whoever might live in it).

Agreed Rhubarb, DD1 had a friend from a very wealthy family, I hated her going round there, the house was the dirtiest I have ever seen, and I've seen some. They had a great big hairy husky type dog and I don't think the stairs had ever been hoovered, the dog hair was that thick and matted on them. The kitchen was disgusting, thick dirt and grease layered on everywhere, dried dog food welded to the floor, the laundry was 2' deep in the utility room and the dining room was buried under a mountain of clean clothes - they just rummaged in there every morning.

Lovely people, but OMG the house.

I agree with that too ZZenAgain

Peachy is their no chance he woul d move closer to you with support from ss

I thought it was a really interesting article and the contrast between how pretty that countryside is and how little the people have was very striking, wasn't it? It makes me think of that song, 'Penny to my name', which is about that sort of community.

I agree with others, it was only the one house that looked dirty as opposed to cluttered, and it did sound from the article as if the man who lived there was struggling a lot.

FWIW, my brothers and I used to run around barefoot and my parents' home was regularly pretty grotty. We just had more space so not so noticeable. There are actually worse things in life than an unswept floor and it is a bit strange to get outraged about that but not about the fact nearly half this community live below the poverty line.

Um that article

the kid is visiting his Uncle yes? Plenty of people have Uncles and Aunts who are unmarried becuase of low level LD or MH issues and whose houses are probably not what we'd want. This bloke is likely enough to fall in one fo those groups no?

As for the rest- it's a poor community that could be from anywhere in the world. Ownership of babies is implied by the pics but not stated and a lot seems to have been used to fit an agenda as opposed to actually state facts.

Brilliant point LRD. Some people would prefer to get outraged at the fact that different people have different standards to them but they miss the main point completely and fail to be outraged at the fact that these people are living in abject poverty in the 21st century.

You should see the state of some of the homes in Brazil's many shanty towns. They are filthy and the children are forced to drink contaminated water that contains dead dogs, urine, faeces and goodness knows what else. Perhaps you would say that they too, ought to pull their socks up and tidy up a bit eh?

Mrbojangles you seem very intersted in Peachy's Grandad. Maybe stop questioning her? She didn't start this thread, you did.

I didn't actually notice the babies with teenage mums apart from the couple who were married in high school. That's a culture shock to me. I wonder what divorce rates are like.

rhubarb - funny you mention Brazil, DB and his wife lived there for a bit and that ones one of the things that shocked them the most (and people did make the whole stupid 'oh, it's their own fault really ....' argument there too). Some people just love to judge.

LRDtheFeministDragon not sure about poverty in the us when Obama tried to giver the poos Americans free Heath care it was blue cooler Americans who mostly opposed it

The don't like goverment interference the ont want a system like ours can't imagin somone in the uk not having running water wo live in a council house

MrBo nope, he'll never leave the home that Nan lived in, plus he is in council housing so no way he could transfer from England to Wales anyway. he can't live with us- no space and he would be a risk around the bys (and ds1 to him). Dad would leave Mum if she had him there for very good reason- which sounds hard but basically before I was born Mum lost 5 babies, 4 to stillbirth and 1 to rubella. Grandad had wanted Mum to marry a Lawyer and not 'just a brickie' and whenever Mum was put on bedrest to try and save a pregnancy Nan and Grtandad would track ehr down and stress her, even breaking in to my otehr Nan's house one day when she went into hiding.

So TBH I think he should be grateful anyone visits him. We're good on care in my family- Mum helps me with my 2 when she can and my other sister's boys daily, Aunt cares for her MIL- but Grandad won;t be getting any invites to live with anyone soon.

Actual maybe the OP could start a charity so we can buy all the poor people cleaning products. I mean they are so essential aren't they, much more so than money/food/job/water?

QLB it's fine but thank you.

Trust me, I am good at guilt- he can't ask me questions I haven't asked myself. I love my Grandad, despite Mum's relationship with him, but I couldn't cope with him and disabled kids; and Carer's Allowance of £55 per week or whatever it is won't cover many £25 trips down to see him anyway. I do my best, I am confident of that.

QuickLookBusy so I can't ask abou somones grandad

My own gampy died in a similar situation he wouldn't let anyone into his flat meals on wheels, wouldn't let anyone help him and we were also told unless is declared unable to make his own choices we could do nothing

So sorry for asking

"blue cooler" huh?

It's ahrd isn;t it MrBoJan?

Grandad can still feed himself and Mum shops for him, he just seems to like living in a filthy museum piece. In fact his heater isn't dissimilar to the ones in the pictures on the link, council want it out but he refused. A year ago he could mow the lawn, drive about and be independent- he declined suddenly but then next month he is 92, hardly a surprise- to anyone but him, and my delusional Aunt who insists that he has another decade left in him. I hope he doesn't, for his sake.

If how a person lives works for them, and carries no risk to children, then I don't think it's anyone's business. What does it matter if some people have a different standard of cleanliness and tidiness?