to think that no matter how angry they make us feel, even people like abu qatada should receive a proper trial?

[defuse]

Ok, let me elaborate.....today we were talking about abu qatada and some strong feelings stirred up that he should be deported because 'they come to this country and break our laws, if we do that in their country we would be deported, so why can't we do the same. they preach hate and terrorise us, why should the tax payer pay for his time in jail.

My stance was that no matter how awful people are, we have to make sure that we follow our judicial system and get justice that way - if then he is deported, then so be it. We DO consider human rights unlike many countries around the world.

I also got the whole 'they would not consider our human rights in those countries'. My stance was we must always stand above other countries and keep our integrity and have faith in our judicial system. If a judgement is made to deport him, then i am all for it.

I was then called a 'do-gooder'

my question is, AIBU to want to consider the rights of even those who frankly speaking can be very difficult to palate based on their crimes.

Isityouorme I don't 'care' what happens to him either. He may well be evil. But if we don't apply the law fairly in his case, it gives away any moral high ground that we have. It gives Islamic extremists like himself the chance to say that we're biased and discriminatory towards Muslims. It gives them another reason to say we're a legitimate target for terrorist attacks.

Isn't the issue that he is wanted for trial in Jordan? Therefore we cannot try him in this country, hence the extradition process. If someone committed a crime in this country and then fled abroad we would expect that country to extradite them for trial here.

Personally I think we should follow the Italian example - they recently deported several terrorists against the wishes of the ECHM who responded by admitting they couldn't actually do anything about it and imposed a token fine on the Italian government.

Exactly. We're not denying him a fair trial because we don't have jurisdictiion to try him here. Jordan does have jurisdiction, so he should be deported.