to find the term "real woman" annoying?

[CaramelisedOnion]

in the context of a "real woman" being over say, a size 12, with the implication that those of us who are below this are somehow lacking?

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In some (not all) cases these "real" "healthy" women are......fat. Not so healthy.

Me, I would like to see a non-airbrushed naked photograph of a real furry creature from Alpha Centauri.

If you have a vagina you are a real woman.

Though tbh I do think that any woman over a size 12 can't win unless they simply call themselves 'fat' these days and vanity sizing is always their fault.

I can totally understand you finding that phrase offensive,

but judging by your response to the pictures you have some perspective issues.

The woman in the first picture doesn't look overweight to me at all. If she has just had a baby, as another poster said, it's quite reasonable that she has a bit of a bump. The second woman does look overweight and yes, I agree that being overweight is unhealthy.

As for people going on about slim women being stick insects and looking like teenage boys, it used to annoy me a bit but it doesn't really upset me as I know I look good and am attractive to men. It says far more about the person saying it, who may be unhappy with their figures and trying to make themselves feel better.

Exactly what Hoebag says. ////\

I was coming on all ready to say YANBU, but as soon as you said the woman in the first pick was overweight, you lost me.

She is normal. Real. Just like every other woman on the planet.

My goodness I just looked at the first picture! You have a warped view on overweight OP. Are you one of these stupid people who whisper about women who show any sign that they have carried a child?

It's people like you who are the problem and you have the cheek to be offended about the term "Real Woman" with your attitude? Time for a reality check I think.

Hilarious.

Every woman on the planet is a real woman

It's a stupid phrase no matter who it's applied to

Shoulder to shoulder with Purple and Hoe.

Onion I am worried about you.

Love Sarah real fat slag

The woman in the first picture is healthy looking!

FGS, I am slap bang in the middle of healthy (BMI 21.9) and I'm fatter than that in places!

What do you mean by "overweight," do you mean "not size 8?"

The woman in the first pic is not overweight at all.

She's leaning forward, wearing a thong about 2 sizes too small....therefore her loose belly (from having had a baby) looks unflattering, that's all.

If she lost the thong and sat up, I'm sure she'd look a lot better.

Willing to bet that neither of those women are 'obese' in BMI categories, which is the only point (apart from being underweight, which is the category most models/actresses and women who whine about 'fatties' fall, and the least healthy) at which there are health risks. 'Overweight' people have longer life expectancies than any other BMI category. Also the first one is probably not even overweight, she just has loose skin on her lower abdomen probably as a result of pregnancy. YABU and very silly.

I'd go further and say the first woman looks slim. Her jawline and shoulders are sleek and well defined. (And no, I don't think I'm desensitised to weight issues, surrounded as I am by 6-foot tall skinny family.)

It is all bollocks. Using the term' real woman' as a backlash against anorexic models is completely missing the point. I hate the way womens bodies are analysed like this.

The first woman is not overweight, just not toned. She is definitely does not look a 6-8 though, a 10-12 maybe. Apparently it IS unhelathy to have a waist of over 31.5" though (thats not that big, prob a size 12 max), this can lead to heart problems and other medical issues, pear shaped women etc would be ok but it is unhealthy to carry extra weight around your tummy!

My friend is a 6-8 but does not look skinny she has a tiny bit of a baby belly and would never wear a bikini, she is just petite and it suits her. Size 6 does not always mean unhealthy!!!

The fact is that the majority of women in the UK are a size 14 and over. So depicting them in the press as normal and 'real' is just that...they represent the majority of women.

I've never really understood why women who are thin, want to be thin, like being thin and work hard to stay thin, get so upset if larger women are presented positively or at least realistically.

Every day there are millions of articles celebrating thinness. Virtually every supermodel, every actress, every pop star is thin! Their legs are cooed over. Their flat tummies the stuff of respect and admiration.

Our daughters are bombarded with these images and the messages that go with them. Thin Is Good. Thin is beautiful.

So why oh why, when there is the odd counter image of a beautuful woman who is the size of most women in the UK is there an outcry? Do thin women only want images of other thin women in the press?

Wibbly being obese in BMI categories is certainly not the only point in which there are health risks.

BMI is just a guideline (and a very generous one at that) and many people can still carry a huge belly and be within a 'perfect' BMI range.

Too much abdominal fat is a very serious health risk no matter what your BMI is.

The phrase 'real woman' is highly offensive. We're all real!

That said, I do understand that sometimes the phrase is used to imply 'not airbrushed, real as in if you saw them on the street this image would be a real representation', as other posters have said.

But if you think that first woman is fat, you have issues beyond terminology.

I hate this too im a size 8/10 and im a real woman i dont diet just thats the size i am , It seems a condratiction media go on about this diet that diet detox one day then say a size 16 is all woman the next , i wish they would leave us alone ,

Purple Very rarely women are born without vaginas, and this obviously has immense psychological consequences for them...they are still women though surely? I think they are anyway

should have said pyschological and physical

lou that's why it's such a blunt tool, BMI - but it's a sensible indicator in general (I have a 32" waist, WOE. Size 8 arse, size 12-14 waist. That's being an apple shape for you! And I'm 10 stone at 5'7 - definitely not overweight, but still abdominally obese.)

I hate the 'real woman' stuff, too, and heartily agree that sometimes it seems to mean overweight. However, the woman in the first picture is in no way overweight. She looks perfect to me - not too thin and certainly not fat. She has a healthy covering of fat in the places that are normal for a woman - thighs, bottom, stomach. No body fat at all is not healthy. I think the healthy range for a woman is something like 20-30% body fat.

Oh ffs.

I think you missed the point a little there Organic.

Perhaps I did, but please could you answer my question?

What does the OP have to do with missing vaginas?