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AIBU to think we shouldn't have to cover this cost?

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somedayma · 16/04/2012 22:03

I genuinely don't know if I'm being unreasonable or not. I'll try to keep it short!

I moved to a new city in Sept. I wasn't happy in my first flat. Found the room on gumtree (risky, i know!) and just didn't click with flatmates. I moved flats in Feb. I moved to this flat (although it's a wee bit old fashioned and slightly grotty) because I happened to know one of the guys (james) who lives here - we have known each other from home and both happened to end up living here. There are 3 bedrooms and the other bedroom was taken by a girl neither of us knew (gumtree again)- she'd been there for a couple of months before I moved in.

She decided to leave as she found somewhere cheaper. Fair enough, she tried to find someone to take over her lease (she left 4 months early). She ended up leaving on bad terms as she wouldn't accept that james and i should have a say in who ends up living with us - she was happy to throw anyone into the room so she wouldn't have to pay extra rent. Anyway, i'm rambling. The landlord was very good about agreeing that james and i could find our own flatmate as long as she also continued to contribute to the effort. She left without finding someone in the end, and ended up losing her deposit (one month rent).

This was almost a month ago. Since she left, I've tried everything to find someone. I've put ads on gumtree and on flatmate sites, asked friends of friends, posted on twitter, fb etc. Lots of viewers, no one is biting. I can kind of understand why as it's the smallest bedroom in the flat and the flat isn't THAT nice. We've specified 'no students' in the ad (council tax reasons and also we're both working fulltime, we've done the student life thing already) and to be honest, if I didn't know one of the people already living here I probably wouldn't have taken the flat. So i'm not really surprised it's proving hard to find a professional who wants to move in.

ANYWAY - landlord rang me today to say he is going to ask the letting agency to advertise the room and handle all the viewings etc themselves- that's fine, we want someone to move in soon too (council tax between 3 rather than 2!) but I was a bit taken aback when he said he expected james & i to split the cost of advertising it with him. It's going to cost around £200 and I can't afford to pay around £70. I also don't feel like we should have to. I've genuinely made a big effort to try and get a new flatmate in in the last month and I don't know what else I can do! It's not our fault the other girl broke her lease and left and yes, it's a pain in the ass for the landlord to miss out on rent for one of the bedrooms but again, that's not our fault.)

I said I wasn't really happy to contribute towards the cost of advertising it and he said that since we were all on the same lease, it was partly our responsibility. i just checked my lease and i have (for some unknown reason) a 'holiday agreement' 6 month lease that only names me. the contract is between me and the landlord (but obv handled by the letting agency) so am I right in assuming that I have a contract with the landlord regarding MY ROOM, rather than responsibility for the vacant bedroom as well? I assume James has a similar lease as we all moved in at different times. I honestly don't know! the lease says nothing about what will happen if someone moves out of the flat...

He really does seem like a nice reasonable guy, was v good about understanding the predicament james&i were in when the other flatmate left, so i don't want to phone him ranting about my tenants rights etc!

am i being unreasonable? naive? are we responsible for helping towards the advertising fee?

IABU TO EXPECT YOU TO HAVE READ THIS WHOLE THING...THANKS

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cocobongo · 16/04/2012 22:07

given there is nothing in writing, then i wouldn't pay a contribution. the thing is, he is only losing rent for 1 room, he is still getting cover for two rooms. if you had all moved out together, he could have a rental void for several months. the set up he has chosen has minimised his risk, so he should be liable for the cost of advertising.

Noqontrol · 16/04/2012 22:10

Do you have separate contracts or a shared contract? If you have separate contracts then really he should go after the girl for that money as he's had to pay to let it partway through the contract. If you have a shared contract then I think you might be liable to pay. Look on landlord zone, the forums will tell you where you stand.

somedayma · 16/04/2012 22:11

that's what i thought! i do feel bad for him though as he seems (SEEMS) like a nice bloke. however, part of me also thinks you risk things like this happening when you're a landlord.

i also don't think he knows we all have our own individual leases, i think that was the agency's doing (and may turn out to be my ace card!). so i don't think he chose this set up. but...i don't feel so bad for him i wanna give him 70 quid

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Noqontrol · 16/04/2012 22:12

Sorry, just realised you said you had shared contract. I'm pretty sure you would be liable to pay. Sorry.

somedayma · 16/04/2012 22:13

i have my own contract. well since I am the only person named on my contract, I assume it's not somehow still...joined to the other contracts?! this is confusing. thanks, i will have a look at landlord zone

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Noqontrol · 16/04/2012 22:14

Lol, your contract situation is confusing me. Check with James, if he has one too then that is your ace card.

somedayma · 16/04/2012 22:14

no, i think i have my own. he SAID we have a shared contract but when i checked it, i seem to have my own. i know james has signed one that lasts for a year but mine is only 6 months and only names me. is it possible we are still somehow liable...somehow?!

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somedayma · 16/04/2012 22:14

it's confusing me too!! :)

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Noqontrol · 16/04/2012 22:15

No it shouldn't be joined to the others, does yours just specify the amount of rent YOU pay, or the total for the whole flat?

Noqontrol · 16/04/2012 22:16

If you got separate contracts that detail the amount YOU pay, not as a whole, then you're not liable.

bibbitybobbitybunny · 16/04/2012 22:17

I didn't read the whole thing as it was full of superfluous details and I'm sure you could have put it in three sentences.

plantsitter · 16/04/2012 22:17

If you do have a shared contract, you would both really be liable for the extra third of the rent, so £70 would not be bad. As it is, you don't owe anything if you've signed your own contract (if it were a shared one it would have all your signatures on it).

ConsiderYourself · 16/04/2012 22:18

Talk to Shelter - they are the experts on housing matters, not just homelessness. They should be able to help you out.

runforthesun · 16/04/2012 22:19

I would also check with your local Council Tax department, as if you have a separate contract and are only letting a room then your Landlord should be liable for the Council Tax.

somedayma · 16/04/2012 22:22

it's just my name and my amount of rent on it. so it's looking good :). thanks. runforthesun, i don't think i could bring myself to ask him to pay the extra council tax too unless it was a longterm thing

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sunnydelight · 16/04/2012 23:44

Separate contracts then so you are not liable. I would point this out (nicely) to your landlord, but you do have to accept that you will have no say over who takes the other room.

somedayma · 17/04/2012 01:00

Thanks. I know; I hope we don't end up with some nutter

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sashh · 17/04/2012 06:03

Why not open the student thing up - maybe to mature and or postgrad only. I didn't go to uni until my 30s.

catsareevil · 17/04/2012 06:49

If your contract only mentions you and the amount of rent that you pay then I agree that is all you should be liable for.

You dont have to pay for your landlords advertising.

The whole thing does sound odd though. A 'holiday agreement'?
The lanlord could presumably consider pursuing the person who moved out for the unpaid rent.

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