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Tbe be well and truly pissed off that I can't get a job while others who didn't try have. And to that bastard lying job ad which means I missed out on a huge opportunity

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Notalone · 15/04/2012 14:17

I have just finished 3 years at uni and have now qualified as a health professional. The course was a mix of young and mature students, mainly a lovely bunch, and the majority hard working. However there were quite a few who didn't bother to turn up to a lot of lectures, put the bare minimum into group work and who started their dissertations 3 days before they were due in. Up to them I thought, its their lives. I worked my ass off during my assignments and placements juggling DS and a messy breakup in my final year and got a first. Many of these students scraped 2.2's. I have been looking for work in the profession I qualified in now since last May. I am restricted to this area because of DS's school, and there is a huge amount of competition due to the amount of universities within a 30 mile radius who offer the same course. Jobs therefore are like gold dust. I have had a few interviews for the rare jobs that have come up around here and came second 3 times so just missed out each time. However all those who pissed around have got jobs in different geographical areas. They are all working in the profession we qualified in and are all (according to Facebook) enjoying their new careers and pay packets. I know they have applied where there is less competition and it isn't like I don't want them to be working but I feel a seething resentment that I am still not working. The first person to get a job actually cheated in two of her assignments by using the same presentation twice for 2 different but related modules. I am working in a lower paid related job but my conract ends soon so it is likely to be JSA for me for a while. I feel so bloody disheartened Sad
And to top it all off a perfect job for me near where I live and in my profession was advertised a few weeks ago but for internal applicants working for the NHS trust only. One of my friends didn't realise and still applied and now has an interview. I actually cried when I found out because jobs in his trust rarely come up and I feel have missed out on a valuable opportunity. I am going to ask them tomorrow if they will accept a late applicaion bearing in mind they have actually accepted someone else not working for the trust but am not going to hold my breath. I feel so crap and stressed right now and just want all my hard work to actually come to something.

Ok rant over. Someone come and talk sense into me please Blush Smile

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Mutt · 15/04/2012 14:18

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HexagonalQueenOfTheSummer · 15/04/2012 14:20

Very helpful reply, Mutt! Not.

YANBU to be upset OP but I would just turn it into determination to fire your job search even more. I'm sure you'll get something soon.

Rhinosaurus · 15/04/2012 14:21

You don't say if it is nursing, but when I qualified as a nurse it took me months to find a job. Can't you go on the bank? That is what I did and it eventually led to a permanent job. If they want experience, can you apply to places outside the NHS to get some experience?

WorraLiberty · 15/04/2012 14:22

Sorry to hear that OP...it's difficult for everyone at the moment.

Passing an interview can have a lot to do with luck and personality.

Most people applying for a job will have similar qualifications so it's not easy for the people doing the interview to decide.

I'm sure if you persevere, your day will come.

nickseasterchick · 15/04/2012 14:23

I can understand your disappointment - ring up tomorrow and ask about a late application...good luck.

HateBeingCantDoUpMyJeans · 15/04/2012 14:26

Defo contact them and say something they can state that and then ignore it.

Notalone · 15/04/2012 14:26

Thanks Hex - I feel all my initial determination has been stamped out of me now. I am working full time, spend pretty much every evening writing job applications and still nothing. I am exhausted and bloody fed up. How is it fair that I worked my arse off while people who cheated and didn't bother to attend uni have got jobs

Is an allied health profession Rhino. I am applying to private companies, charities etc too as well as other jobs that will make use of my transferable skills, but nothing has come of it as yet. All bank work states evenings and weekends which I can't do because of childcare and DS otherwise I would definitely do this

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Notalone · 15/04/2012 14:28

Thanks also Worra Hate and Nick. Was feeling tired but still optimistic until I found out about my friends interview. She is lovely and deserves it. But so do I

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WorraLiberty · 15/04/2012 14:31

Sometimes it really is just bad luck

They could be all set to give the job to you and then the person after you just pips you to the post.

On a different day, that person might not have been at the interview at all.

I'm sure something will come up soon...good luck.

ivanapoo · 15/04/2012 14:32

YANBU to be frustrated but you need to focus on yourself, not others.

Why did they choose the other candidates over you in the interviews? Have you done anything with the feedback you got?

For what it's worth I would have applied for that internal-only job on purpose - you have nothing to lose being a bit cheeky in applications.

MerryMarigold · 15/04/2012 14:33

I just wanted to say something, because it must be really, really hard for you BUT your time will come.

Would you consider moving if you applied for a job elsewhere and got it? I know you have a Ds who may be in school, but are you tied down for any other reasons? I know it's a really major decision, but it could be a new start all round.

joanna2012 · 15/04/2012 14:35

you made life choices, i.e. had kids, so are now limited to what you will allow yourself to do

they made choices, i.e. spread their nets wide, its paid off for them and they have the jobs

meh, thats the thing with people today, they just love to blame everyone else when things dont go their way

Notalone · 15/04/2012 14:37

Worra - Thanks Smile.I have been coming really close but just not close enough. I actually got offered a job in my profession after one of my previous interviews but not in the hospital I applied for. It was for one a 3 hour each way commuting distance away so I had to turn it down as it was just not feasible. It is all pot luck though - everything hinges on who else is there, you are right. I guess it is good I am coming so close because eventually I will be the best candidate. I just hope it is soon and I just wish there were more opportunities available. But I think it is the same in all professions right now and definitely not just mine.

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featherbag · 15/04/2012 14:37

It is frustrating, but if you limit yourself to one area, and can't work evenings and weekends, I don't understand why you can't see why you're not in a job yet? Most NHS jobs, certainly the majority of NQ clinical roles, require 24/7 working patterns, so you'll need to widen your search area if you can't do this. Do you drive? You may need to look at childcare options that allow you more flexibility and/or a longer commute. Which AHP have you qualified in?

Well done on finishing the course btw, sounds like you had to overcome some hefty obstacles!

Birdsgottafly · 15/04/2012 14:40

I would blankout how others performed when getting qualified.

A better BA doesn't make you a better SW/Nurse etc.

You have recognised that those that have jobs are working the hours that you cannot, so you couldn't do the job that they are doing and they now have no need to apply for the job that you want.

Always contact the employer, our jobs are supposed to be only internal, but we add to a 'pool' of people from external sources, who are showing that they want the job, get your name known.

Your main restriction is your working hours and you may have to accept that it will then take you longer to find work.

DaisySteiner · 15/04/2012 14:40

YANBU, it sucks. I am in a similarish position, waiting to hear about jobs and of the people I am up against, I know that one has been defrauding the NHS by saying she's a single parent and thus getting a HUGE bursary and another has plagiarised some of his essays. It has crossed my mind to dob them in, but can't face sinking to that level really.

Notalone · 15/04/2012 14:43

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Sidge · 15/04/2012 14:46

If allied professions are anything like nursing they don't give a stuff whether you got a first or a third, they just want someone who can do the job.

And whilst I appreciate your family situation/childcare difficulties, you have to acknowledge that if your uni peers don't have those difficulties they may be seen as more 'employable' than you. In many health professions it's all about flexibility. You appear limited in the hours and geographical area you can work which can hinder employment prospects.

Something will come up for you I'm sure, but you may need to make some changes to your childcare provision or where you live. In the meantime keep working, doing anything, as I believe it's easier to get a job when you're in a job. Good luck!

Notalone · 15/04/2012 14:48

Feather - The profession I qualifed in is predominantly day shifts 8-4 or 9-5. The bank jobs that require evening / weekend working tend to be in hospitals for a & e departments where they need to decide whether to discharge or admit someone. Most other jobs don't expect this. And no driving licence but I accept this is an obstacle. On the wage I am currently on I can't afford lessons though once I get a better paid job that is first on my agenda.

Birds- yes I think I will do this from now on. I am still in contact with all my placement supervisors and am constantly networking through my current job but will make new contacts too. I always did really well on my placements too btw so I know I can def do the job, not just the academia side.

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laptopdancer · 15/04/2012 14:48

Which allied health profession?Could you do freelance or private work?

Notalone · 15/04/2012 14:50

Daisy - its so frustrating isn't it? I really feel for you too

Sidge - you are right. They probably are more employable because they can be more flexible. Ds goes to secondary next year though so hopefully childcare issues wont be quite such an obstacle then.

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Notalone · 15/04/2012 14:51

Its OT laptop.

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laptopdancer · 15/04/2012 14:51

You could apply for sales jobs too?

ProcrastinateWildly · 15/04/2012 14:52

I think you need to try and accept that life isn't fair, and people who cheat do sometime get ahead by it. I know this is not easy to do, but you will end up consumed by bitterness if you don't. Good luck with getting a job, I really feel for you.

Birdsgottafly · 15/04/2012 14:55

Did your placements not give you any contacts, normally it is possible to get back in touch and let them know that you are now seeking work.

Depending on where you live, is there an employment agency/pool that they use for 'bank/cover' that they could put you in touch with?

The only comfort is that this will change quite quickly, they grow up so fast when they go to secondary school.

Lay the groundwork for making him sensible and responsible, that is what i have had to do with mine. I am lucky that i have family close so if anything went wrong they have someone's door to knock on.

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