AIBU to be slightly miffed that "throwing a paddy" refers to Irish people ?

[scuzy]

If having a paddy meant being drunk, i'd understand. but to associate it with having a tantrum when of recent years at footballs games, riots etc its the english that are the ones more deserving of this title.

not sure what it would be called then.

any suggestions? having a ....????

OP didn't ask for origins of Paddy-wagon', she asked for origins/ definition of 'throwing a Paddy'

The two are linked and i found them within a minute. All said that it came fromother countries, so why the attack on the British?

will remember the next time someone posts a question ... i'll reply just google it!

You didn't just ask a question, you made the statement that the English are more deserving of a negative label, based on actions that happen in all countries.

I wouldn't use that phrase and it wasn't common in my region, others with no negative stereotype's attached, were.

Birds I don't think OP did TBH.
Paddywaggon and Throwing a paddy are both stereotyping the Irish.
(Paddy,Patrick,St.Patrick) but have separate meanings.

scuzy irish here. not keen on having a paddy, irish are drunks, being called a paddy, paddy whackery (came out of cartoons and stereotypes in the English media from the 17th on), nick nack paddy whack. Biddies and Paddies...a term for male and female immgirant Irish in London.
Paddy has a long and distinguished career in all sorts of forms as a derogatory term for Irish people, their temperament and quirks.
May I also draw folks attention to a thread here on St Patricks day wondering as to why such a fuss is made of the Saints feast day. It's existence seemed to annoy the shit out of them. Another comment on another thread today about and irish family with stolen street furniture in their front garden.
This is a complex debate. Go handy

i presume everyone knows I am irish too.

OP, the inference you make against English is far more racist than the innocent use of the term "paddy" referring to a tantrum.

CrystalMaize if you read the thread I apologised for that, agree with you but cant edit the OP.

and that is what the debate is about ... is using the term "throwing a paddy" innocent or not. some on this thread believe it is a racist term.

I did read the thread. IMO it is innocent use of a word which has many meanings. So YABU.

Scuzy it is hardly complimentary now is it? The Irish are seen through as certain lens in England. I don't care what they say. A council official said to me once "Oh but you're Irish" regarding parking our car. he didn't mean in a sympathetic way. he meant it to sound "Oh you are unreasonable". I think "throwing a Paddy" is a suggestion that unreasonableness is involved and is a hall mark of certain behaviour connected with being Irish.

I once was behind the bar at cheltenham races and mentioned the paddy wagon out back. Cue lots of worried irish faces on the other side of the bar!

i'm northern irish but have never heard of this phrase
it might seem racist given that "paddy" is often used to describe irish ppl
but some terms are so old that ppl using them don't know the origin so don't therefore feel they are being racist

I assumed having a paddy was to do anti-Irish sentiment, similar to Enid Blyton Irish characters always having red hair and a fiery temper to match. However most English people are not stroppy. Pistey was in my house last Friday and she was very refained!

oh lola i know its definately not a compliment. my response was to CrystalMaize who believes I was racist referring to english as hooligans but not in using the phrase" throwing a paddy".

Well it is racist! If you're that bothered about not being able to edit your post, ask MNHQ to do it.

FYI the word Hooligan has racist beginnings - it's anti Irish. Shall we debate that one as well?

The first time I heard the phrase was in England. I have never heard the phrase throwing a Tommy. Also a first time for me in England was the phrase "it's all getting a bit Irish".

CrystalMaize "to be sure" you are bored as you stated on another thread. are you just fishing for drama?

Wasn't I who said I was bored.

Read the thread.

no thanks, its too boring.

If disagreeing with you qualifies as "drama"...
It's a debate isn't it?

i am all for debate and no I am not an OP that you must agree with.

I have apologised for the title of the OP and referring to english as hooligans, you obviously dont accept that. I am not contacting MNHQ to change it as it will confuse any other readers.

Hooligan is not anti-Irish. its roots come from a group in India? Or am I thinking about thugs?
Anyway, you two stop it now. The fact of the matter is, that the Irish have been the targets of not very nice things said by English people for a very long time. And I believe that if people's conciousness is raised to it, then it shall pall into insignificance, but it does reflect an age old antipathy going in the dirction of England to Ireland. I do not think that is racist, it is a fact

Regardless of whether it's racist or not, it's fucking stupid.

Who said I didn't accept it? You can't expect people to ignore it just because you changed your mind and said you didn't mean it.

2 shoes thanks for that insightful contribution.