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AIBU to think that legislators in the US need sectioning?

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CaptainKirk · 10/04/2012 15:36

I've lived in the UK for 10 years and I'm becoming increasing alarmed by the irrationality and insanity of the Republican right over there. This article has left me thinking they all need sectioning in a secure facility asap.

rt.com/usa/news/arizona-bill-conception-abortion-387/

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NoFoodwithaFace · 10/04/2012 15:41

Isn't it just saying they will only allow abortions up to 20 weeks after a womans last period? It's not really say that they won't allow terminations when the baby doesn't exist? Sorry if i've misreadd it!

Tee2072 · 10/04/2012 15:43

The article is wrong because it is based on an original article that was wrong. We already count pregnancy from the 2 weeks before conception.

Read this

InAnyOtherSoil · 10/04/2012 15:45

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LineRunner · 10/04/2012 15:46

There was a particularly mad attempt from a Republican congressman I think to put something into statute about poisoned chemical trails from jets killing us all, that and alien invasions.

I expect he is the one in charge of women's reporductive rights' legislation, during his day release downtime.

CaptainKirk · 10/04/2012 15:53

Good article Tee2072, I never knew that. Here I was thinking they had totally lost the plot saying that the child's life started before conception.

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ariadneoliver · 10/04/2012 15:58

LineRunner that was Dennis Kucinich, he's a Democrat.

LineRunner · 10/04/2012 16:02

Really? I am distraught. Madness all over.

bobbledunk · 10/04/2012 20:26

Pregnancy is counted as starting the date of your last period, the real issue is they are banning abortion after week 20, there is nothing crazy about, most people would agree that you have to have a cut off point somewhere.

Still more liberal than Sweden (week 18) or France (week 12), 'pro choicers' in the States expect abortion to be available right up until the end of pregnancy, that is truly crazy (and evil).

LineRunner · 10/04/2012 20:36

Well, evil is relative, I guess.

Anyway, not much to see here really.

pointythings · 10/04/2012 20:45

I don't see an enormous problem with a cut-off, as long as there is provision for pregnancies where the mother's life is at risk, or where the baby will definitely not survive post-birth (such as anencephaly). I'm not sure 20 weeks is the right time though, a friend of mine was in that position (serious genetic disorder, not survivable for baby post-birth, diagnosed late). She had to go through the trauma of delivering a dead baby at 24 weeks, but forcing her to carry to term, then give birth, then watch her baby die would have been worse for her and her DH. In that situation there just has to be choice.

BreastmilkDoesAFabLatte · 10/04/2012 20:48

Erm, how to say this...

There's a distinction between mad and stupid which needs to be made here. Just because a person has a so-called mental illness of sufficient severity to justify the deprivation of their civil liberties does not mean that they necessarily believe life to begin two weeks before the point of conception.

In other words, YABU to imply that people with mental health issues are either dim and thick or zealously misogynist.

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