if you can't love children you shouldn't have them

[boglach]

Would the daily fucking fail address the real issues please

I really wish that as a society we'd make a decision to put a lot more money into dealing with neglect and child abuse. It would make me very happy. Caring for all the children, not just ours.

It's good to see you around boglach. And I agree with you.

We are ignoring child abuse?

Are we?

yanbu. the pretentious shite gets right up my nose.

MorrisZapp - I would say that, as a society, we are. Intervention, support, and care for children who have suffered is chronically underfunded.

On a serious note, I'm not sure what this post is about... Are we saying that the people who try to live by the middle class cliche of Chinese language groups for toddlers and Montessori nurseries are abusive or if you don't do that you are abusive?

Are we saying that people deliberately have children when they know they can never love them for some other reason?

Or are we trying to identify those who are emotionally abusing their children with a lack of love and care? If so how do you know you will love your child?

There are no parenting guidelines.

Do you mean all children. That people should love all children before they have their own?

Have you been on the gin, op?

What child abuse epidemic?

Hi Boglash, hope you're ok.

I just think there is a lot of fussing about issues that don't matter. Daily cognitive dissonance about what is actually causing a lot of damage

emotional, physical and sexual abuse and yes it is widespread according to the NSPCC

And under a veil of middle class civility a lot can be hidden. We are hoodwinked by the maternal myth, we seem una
ble to accept that some mothers don't love their children and are monstrously cruel to them. Yet we don't support young adults in turning their back on such parents, I still hear the old adage 'how can you not speak to your own mother'

It makes me so angry. Fathers from all walks of society sexually abusing their own daughters. Mothers who stand back and allow it. Psychopaths, narcissists and people who had kids knowing they wouldn't love them.

And yes as a society we do very little and in some ways even allow it to continue

What is a 'daily cognitive dissonance' in non pseudo-intellectual speak?

I would have been happy to explain. But I presume your use of the term pseudo intellectual negates anything I might say in your eyes

I learnt the term through years of counselling for childhood abuse btw

I still don't know what you are talking about.

What abuse epidemic? If such an epidemic exists, how would you like it addressed? Can you define abuse in this instance?

I think 'pseudo-intellectual' sums up the 8.21 post beautifully :)

Lentilly, if you don't understand what boglach is saying you could ask in a civil manner or just ignore the thread, couldn't you? Hippo, what exactly is the purpose of your post, do you generally just post to support other people in being nasty?

Boglach, I totally get what you're saying.

I understand perfectly what the OP is saying - or trying to say. I just cannot abide that kind of ridiculous way of saying things. Why can it not just be said in plain English? And I think I was actually rather civil - I could so easily have said "What the actual fuck are you saying in that pretentious up your arse way" - but I didn't.

And I'll ignore the thread if I want to - not if you want me to. Thank you.

Again Lentilly, no one is holding a gun to your head making you read the thread. If you don't like the way someone posts, surely it's more adult and mature to just not post, rather than criticising the poster for something specific that happens to annoy you?

I'm reading the bloody thread because I want to. Kindly do not tell me what to read or where to post. What new nonsense is this that one can only post fawning agreement to complete toss?

Ok Lentilly, I won't engage with you any more.

Thank you cassette I find this sort of thing so jarring. Just say things simply ffs or don't say them at all. It's the worst kind of knobbery and very exclusive to many.

I am not using such words to sound intellectual. As I explained such terms have helped to define how and why my abuse went unnoticed and judging by the reading I have done on the subject they can explain why abuse is ignored in society at large.

Most of us at some point have stood by whilst abuse happens.most of us can only enjoy the lifestyle we have because a child somewhere has been exploited. But we adjust our beliefs to make us more comfortable with this. That is cognitive dissonance.

Read up about NSPCC if you want more info on how widespread abuse is.