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To think this Sam Brick woman is above average looking?

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Cortina · 04/04/2012 10:08

She looks better than the average 41 year old woman does she not?

She also has a better figure than average and is taller than average?

I'm not as attractive as her but have been known to get a second glance now and again. She's much better looking than the average Mum, surely?

Surely she's at least a 7 out of 10? Surely she's as attractive as Victoria Beckham etc.

One of the plainest women I've ever met told me she was stunning once, not British. I found people began to believe she was in time because she just had this tremendous self belief.

Am not sure Samantha Brick really believes she's beautiful anyway. This this is all for fun, self publicity.

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Cortina · 04/04/2012 10:29

Come on she looks far younger than the average 42 year old - people have forgotten what they look like due to Kylie, Jennifer Aniston. People wil be saying Courtney Cox looks like an average 46 year old or whatever she is next.

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molly3478 · 04/04/2012 10:30

My mum is in her late 50s and looks better tbh it depends how you look after yourself

LentillyFart · 04/04/2012 10:31

Oh give it a bloody rest cortina. This has been done to death now and you're starting to look strangely obsessed.

Whatmeworry · 04/04/2012 10:32

She's better than Ok, but why does anyone care and why are there 2 threads on her?

Kayano · 04/04/2012 10:32

Courtney cox does look amazing though... That's a woman I would not want as a bridesmaid. Grin

Brick can be one because she is so 'meh'

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Cortina · 04/04/2012 10:34

This obsession with youth & attractiveness piques my interest, not her. But agree.

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OneHandFlapping · 04/04/2012 10:34

FGS. She wrote the piece for money and to provoke controversy. It probably bears no relations to what she really thinks, and all that stuff about men buying her champagne etc is probably made up.

The DM must really think she's earned her fee with this one. Liz Jones had better look to her laurels.

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Cortina · 04/04/2012 10:35

It really doesn't depend on how you look after yourself - most will simply not look this young in their 50s.

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Tokamak · 04/04/2012 10:35

My wife is 41 and looks much better than her.

WibblyBibble · 04/04/2012 10:37

YANBU. People seem to have hugely inflated ideas of how 'attractive' women should be. She's tall, thin and blonde, therefore she is more conventionally attractive than the average woman who is 5'3, slightly overweight and not dressed in expensive clothes. I'm average looking (i.e. short, need to lose a couple of pounds, scruffy), and I know I look worse than her- but then people who judge all women to absurdly high standards would say I am hideous, and god knows what they would say about people aho are actually seriously overweight, disfigured, etc. However it is obviously not objectively true that I am hideous because I can e.g. get generally attractive partners, do not get people vomiting at the sight of me when I go out, etc. So based on that I think she is physically above average in appearance, even though I wouldn't do her until a very cold day in hell. In personality she's fairly lacking, obviously. I don't think the things about her experiences are really related to her appearance, probably more to her demeanor (e.g. female bosses finding her insufferable- unlikely to be due to being good looking as most female bosses I've had have been very much oblivious to female colleagues appearance what with being 90% heterosexual and mainly concerned with their own career, sometimes having an interest in actually helping younger women going into similar career paths, and how competent you are at your job).

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Cortina · 04/04/2012 10:41

That's what I was trying to drive at, Wibble.

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Snowboarder · 04/04/2012 10:42

My mum is 49 and is far more attractive - mainly I suspect because she's not dragging an ego the size of Mercury around with her.

I read Samatha Brick's rebuttal in the Mail this morning and I have to say the whole 'woe is me, everyone is bullying me because I'm so gorgeous' line is beginning to get old. Yes, she is a moderately attractive woman. She is certainly not ugly and has a nice slim figure. The one attribute she shares with VB is that she is obviously trying to make the most of herself so with that in mind, good on her.

But beautiful, nope. She is not the absolute stunner that she imagines. It is the delusion which has made her a laughing stock. That coupled with a huge, frankly ugly ego. The idea that most women would fear to leave their DH in her presence for fear of enchantment is breathtaking in it's ridiculousness.

I wish she'd fuck off now and stop bleating on about how unjustly she's being treated.

lurkinginthebackground · 04/04/2012 10:45

I have just seen a picture of her on The Wright Stuff.
I think she looks good and above average for a 42 year old.

Snowboarder · 04/04/2012 10:47

Great. Just seen that she's on This Morning tomorrow defending her honour.

MNHubbie · 04/04/2012 10:48

OMG I got about a quarter of the way through and had to stop.

She is not unattractive but I don't know what your definition of "better figure than average" but I'm afraid hers leaves me a little cold but it could be her clothing in that article. None of the clothes flatter her at all (no curves and her legs look... average).

I am not above enjoying looking at females and my tastes are very broad. I generally find something attractive about everyone as (vomit buckets ready) beauty does show from the inside out. I, personally, wouldn't say height is a factor nor age (that said I wouldn't have guessed 41 looking at her I'd have gone for at least 10 years older. I'm probably lucky in that regard as my wife is 46 but looks mid 30s at the oldest. That is not a criticism just an observation after all I prefer Twiggy today by miles to Twiggy in the 60s. Part of that is that she is just prettier now but it is also because she actually has a body now).

I really don't want to go on here as I'm opening myself up for more scorn than she has given that this is MN but I have to say if "Victoria Beckham" is your benchmark then it is going to be very hard to have a sensible conversation about looks given that Posh is far too skinny, lacking in feminine qualities and a tad harsh looking for me.

My issue with the article (beyond that it is published on toilet paper The Hate Daily Mail) is her ego. I have no problem with people saying that they are attractive nor finding themselves to be beautiful. I love that and frankly it is wonderful when it happens but she does not do that. She is trying to rub every other woman in the worlds face in how wonderful her life is because of her looks... and I don't get it...

I'd normally look at a woman and as I say think "i like..." rather than "I dislike..." and even if she had just said "I'm pretty and I know it" I'd have probably done that but I can't having read her article. Her breasts are heading south in the wedding pic and show no pertness (nor shape) in any pic (no issue with real breasts at all but she seems to have picked terrible bras in every single photo), her skin quality is mediocre at best when flesh is showing, she is starting to show age in her neck at a very young age, she is not really all that pretty tbh, her legs have little shape to them and frankly I do not buy the premise of the article at all. I hate, absolutely hate having written all that as it is not how I'd normally view people but it is what the article does to me. My wife has 5 years on her, is much shorter and is, by her own admission, a touch too curvy but if I was to see her and this lady in the article in a bar for the first time I know which one I'd find attractive and which one I'd probably think was OK... average... It would be the other half who'd be getting drinks bought for her by me and not in any universe this lady.

I stand by to be run off the boards with flaming pitchforks as I feel terrible as a male talking critically about a lady in purely shallow terms but I honestly don't think I'm being completely shallow. I knew nothing of her, I read the OP, I googled and my initial thoughts were "ok... not unattractive... personally not to my taste at all" and then I read the article and found it hard to see what I thought was OK to begin with.

It makes me shudder to have written all that but the article makes me so angry. How dare she put down every other woman!? I have no problem at all with confidence and self belief but this is not that at all this is rampant ego trying to make others feel bad built upon an average foundation.

Ambrosius · 04/04/2012 10:49

She is pretty, but not that pretty. She is slim but her figure is not all that, she may be ever so slightly above average in the looks dept. due to being well groomed and well dressed but her conceit far outweighs her looks.

JasperJohns · 04/04/2012 10:50

I think she's a plain Jane, a bit dumpy and with slightly dodgy teeth.

I would love to see what she sees when looks in the mirror.

RobinSparkles · 04/04/2012 10:56

Meh

She's attractive, I guess and she looks well groomed but she's nothing to write home about.

I know loads of 41 year olds that are just as attractive, if not more so!

She's just the woman next door, IMO. And that's not me being a bitch or jealous - I'll always give a compliment where it's due, but this woman has blown her own trumpet a bit too much and she's not that great.

BettySwollocksandaCrustyRack · 04/04/2012 10:58

I'm 41 today and actually, I look much better than her.......and my body is far more amazing She is just your average Jo!

Snowboarder · 04/04/2012 11:00

I agree Betty ! Happy birthday btw

BettySwollocksandaCrustyRack · 04/04/2012 11:05

Thank you Snow :)

redbunnyfruitcake · 04/04/2012 11:06

What Sam Brick fails to realize is that people do not dislike her because she is beautiful (?) it's probably to do with the fact that she has an over inflated opinion of herself. There is nothing wrong with liking how you look, I have always liked my looks and although I'm facing the ravages of time I'm still happy with what I have. However, I would never claim that women are jealous of me because it. I suspect the reason that women baulk at Sam is her arrogance.

I'm also concerned at her male-centric view of the world. Who gives a toss about men ordering champagne or paying taxi fares. Does she honestly think it's just because she is attractive or does she not think there is perhaps another reason why these men are chancing it? Personally I prefer to pay my own way and not pander to mens judgement about my value based on how I look. Don't get me wrong I'm not above a compliment but I'm no fool either and I choose to be valued for my worth as a human being not just as a pretty face. (hurumpf feminist rate over for the day!)

toweraboveyou · 04/04/2012 11:07

Her attitude makes her ugly.

StuckUpTheFezziwigTree · 04/04/2012 11:08

I agree with Chicken skin. She is a journalist and is writing a story for a story.

She is quite pretty though I think.

StuckUpTheFezziwigTree · 04/04/2012 11:09

Happy birthday Betty!