to think this is seriously fucking fucked up?

[LoopyLoopsIsTentativelyBack]

I've searched and searched in the vain hope this is an April fools joke. Apparently not. :(

live tortoises sold in keyrings

This has made me really angry and sad. What the bloody hell is going on in this world?

And that's size of normal fish tanks

How can they do this? Such a cruel attitude

Human beings are horrible!

well done halfpastwine ill email PETA now.

This is a horrible practice.

But it is also pretty disgusting to refer to 'these Asian countries' (generalize, much?) or to the 'psyche of the Chinese'.

I can't interpret these comments as anything other than racism and have reported.

I couldn't click the link today, but that's so disgusting. : (

But it is also pretty disgusting to refer to 'these Asian countries' (generalize, much?) or to the 'psyche of the Chinese'.

Its wrong to generalise that every chinese/asian person is involved in animnal cruelty.
However you can't pretend that eastern countries are not exactly progressive in terms of animal rights that not racism its fact.

'Eastern countries'?

East of where, exactly?

Yes, no shit Sherlock, it's wrong to generalize ... so why keep doing it?

I'm not ,

I said I'm not saying every person in these countries are cruel to animals and ever would be, no-one would.
But its a known fact some parts of the world have very poor animal welfare rights. Thats a large part of the whole 'eat british meat thing'
also watch the cove its an eye opener.
Stating fact is not racism, you can't live in a constant 'Ooh you can't say that'.

'Eastern countries' is a generalization. Isn't it? Do you want to say which countries you mean, that have poor animal welfare rights? No, you prefer to lump them all together as 'Eastern countries' (which is a pretty meaningless description).

I haven't picked up on people stating that China has poor human rights and animal rights. I don't think that is racist.

Can you really not see the difference?

Thw whole website is a real eye opener "I have bought one and will hang it in my office, it's good luck" - not for the turtle!!

Well I said that in a few posts up but apparently thats too racist for some people.
But Japan , and Eastern Europe has serious issues too.

Yeah, Japan & Eastern Europe are so similar.

Oh I give up, bangs head against wall

people are so fucking fuck

Revolting.

There are certain parts of the world where things like this are allowed to happen and certain parts where they are not. FACT.

I don't think anyone's denying that these things happen in certain parts of the world, messy. Nor has anyone suggested it's anything other than abusive and disgusting.

HTH

doom, I think some people are just missing the point. FWIW, I'm glad I wasn't the only one who was a bit about "these Asian countries". I mentioned it earlier in the thread but nobody else seemed bothered by it.

It's perfectly possible to be opposed to animal cruelty while simultaneously being opposed to sweeping generalisations.

Amen to that, jinsei.

I am really, truly disgusted by reading about this practice.

The point being...?

The point being that we can discuss this cruel practice without making offensive generalisations about "these Asian countries".

China has notoriously poor standards of animal rights. Most people could guess in one where that item would be available for purchase.

That's neither racist or offensive, it's just a fact.

Well, and another point being that this thread, instead of raising awareness of a horrible instance of animal cruelty, has instead been taken over by racist comments, which takes focus away from the animals' suffering.

messy, are you reading what we're saying? No-one has denied China has poor standards of human rights. There is no need for you to pretend anyone has said it.

Fair enough. Sorry. Have just read through ALL posts.