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to be particularly worried about this fuel strike?

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StealthPolarBear · 29/03/2012 08:58

Don't know why but it's making me feel very anxious. We managed through the last 2 so I don't know why it feels like this one will be different but it feels as though it will go on for longer and be more disruptive.

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StealthPolarBear · 29/03/2012 12:00

Reshape good point about driving habits, and I will definitely be looking at other notetaker. But I looked into getting the train to work and it will be a complete pita, a lot more expensive and will mean I have to work fewer hours. I will if I have to though I suppose.

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headfairy · 29/03/2012 12:00

hmmm using my cruise control on the motorway I've managed to get our average mileage down from 34mpg to 42mpg.

KalSkirata · 29/03/2012 12:01

brilliant link woolley

ivykaty44 · 29/03/2012 12:07

I usually get my bike out in March when the clocks go back and use this as my mode of transport for the next 6 months till October. I find it really expensive to drive places and it saves me about 40 pounds per month using my bike locally and then the car to do a couple of longer journeys each week.

There are though people that are not able to get about on other forms of transports.

Perhaps if the government had advised people to think about leaving their cars at home and walking, cycling taking the bus or train instead and leaving petrol for those that really need it - it would have been a better message than stock pile fuel ready for a shotage

Quenelle · 29/03/2012 12:09

Woolly Grin

BoffinMum · 29/03/2012 12:13

I'm not worried. I think I'll get a croggy on the back of Dave's bike. They can carry my laptop in the ministerial car along with his suit.

HmmThinkingAboutIt · 29/03/2012 12:31

Some fuel efficiency tips (most of these are common sense but I didn't know all of them)

1. Remove unnecessary items
Avoid carrying objects in your boot, glove box or elsewhere as these will add extra weight to the car, making your engine work harder to put things in motion. If your roof rack is empty, remove it ? it increases drag and consumes more fuel.
? A loaded roof rack will decrease your fuel economy by five per cent.
? A 100kg load can increase fuel consumption by up to five miles per gallon.

2. Drive when the road is empty
It's easier said than done, but try to avoid congestion. Driving through stop-start traffic is one of the thirstiest times for your car.

3. Warm the car up on the move
Despite engines needing more fuel when they?re cold, this doesn?t mean you should let the engine warm up for five minutes before driving. It?s a big waste of fuel.

4. Limit heavy braking
Take your foot off the accelerator early and slow to a stop or brake early in a smooth, light fashion. Anticipate stops and avoid abrupt braking to decrease fuel consumption and increase the life of your brakes and tyres.

5. Limit heavy acceleration
Don?t accelerate harshly, as this uses a lot of fuel at once. Instead, move off gently and smoothly to your target speed and maintain it for maximum miles per gallon.

6. Step off the accelerator going down hill
When slowing down or driving downhill, remain in gear but take your foot off the accelerator as early as possible. This reduces fuel flow to the engine to virtually zero.

7. Use cruise control if you have it
Cruise control maintains a constant speed, reducing the gradual speeding up and slowing down effect caused by driving normally.

8. Slow down
Avoid excessive speeds when possible. Driving at 85mph is against the law and uses approximately 25% more fuel than 70mph.

9. Close the windows
By driving with the windows or sunroof open, you're ruining the vehicle?s aerodynamics, meaning the engine has to work harder to push the car through the air.

10. Switch off the air con
Switching it off or using climate control on the ?eco? setting reduces fuel consumption.

11. Switch the engine off
Cars use virtually no extra fuel when they?re re-started without pressing the accelerator. Turn off if you?re going to be stationary for more than a minute or two.

12. Change gear early
Changing gear between 2,000 and 3,000rpm burns less fuel. Keep between these rev levels for best performance ? go higher and the engine will work harder ? lower and it will struggle. Both use more fuel than necessary.

13. Avoid built up areas with junctions and speed bumps
It takes more power and more fuel to get a car moving than it does to maintain a speed, so regular slowing down and speeding up isn?t an efficient way of driving.

14. Pump your tyres
Driving on under-inflated tyres requires more engine power. Keep them pumped up in accordance with the manufacturer's recommendations for the maximum miles per gallon. But don?t over-inflate them, as this reduces road grip.
? Under inflated tyres can increase fuel consumption by five per cent.

15. Keep the car serviced
Dirty oil, clogged sparkplugs and faulty thermostats can increase fuel consumption, so ensure your car is serviced regularly.
? A poorly tuned engine can increase fuel consumption by up to 50 per cent.

karlahine · 29/03/2012 12:31

Crikey, a lot to say about this, main topic on Radio2 today too! Well to be honest I'd like to think that maybe this action has caused some people to stop and think about the use of their vehicle. A lot of people desperately need to use their cars for work, emergency etc, but what about those people who live 5 mins from school or work and choose to drive instead? I'm one of those people and the past few months I've been trying to save on the cost or running a car and chosen to walk instead. It's made a huge difference not only to the wallet but my and my childrens fitness. But Cameron? C'mon what were you thinking? "Rodney you plonker" springs to mind!

Hepsibaaah · 29/03/2012 12:49

I'm with the conspiracy theorists. It's a media spin to deflect us from the disaster that our econmy has become, and a attempt to manipulate the public eye away from the huge duty & tac income earned from fuel charges.

thing1andthing2 · 29/03/2012 13:11

Another good conspiracy theory here

missmaviscruet · 29/03/2012 13:13

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marssparklesdownonme · 29/03/2012 13:26

I had to get some petrol this morning as I was on the warning light.Didn't have time to stop on way to school so went after. But I did notice that the local Jet whose petrol was 143.9, had no one outside it, despite being open. Meanwhile the Tesco garage was moderately more busy than usual at 138.9 a litre (and the cheeky bastards had put the price up a penny a litre since yesterday )This is more about Idiots suggesting filling cans .
I'm sure there was something on Look East a while back about a man in Suffolk for storing fuel in his garage and being prosecuted for such dangerous behaviour.
I bet the price of cans has gone up today too.

duchesse · 29/03/2012 13:28

I think that Francis Maude did exactly what he intended to do: forced an early panic-buy to take the wind out of the strikers' sails next week. Anybody crazy enough to join the queues is just helping the government's job along.

poppy1973 · 29/03/2012 13:29

Well, I don't have the money to fill up my tank of petrol yet, I managed to find some cash this morning as I didn't have any petrol in my car which is usual the last week of the month. Drove to the supermarket and saw the queue and thought that I couldn't be bothered to queue for petrol, and was so glad that I had put a bit of petrol in first thing this morning with a local petrol station.

It seems that people have gone a bit made, rushing out to queue for petrol - do they not have anything better to do than waste 30-40 minutes in a queue.

I always fill up after payday, I refuse to budge on this issue, and will drive around once payday has happened to fill up. I don't believe in stretching myself to buy something sooner and use the overdraft as we don't have the money to do this.

It is a bit amazing that they are talking of strikes, when the weather is nice, people will be going away for Easter and when most of the schools will be off. People haven't been spending the money on petrol and generally have been putting £10-£20 a week in their tank due to lack of money. I am a bit concerned about this worry of a strike - do the Government want to frighten us so that we spend all our excess money on the petrol pumps - just before the end of the money when people wouldn't spend this money, and when money is sort anyway.

Just not convinced about this strike and lack of petrol. I will wait and see.

Catsycat · 29/03/2012 13:31

We do need to use our cars because we are also in a rural area.

DH works about 100 miles away, so stays away 2-4 nights a week. (He used to get the train to work daily when we moved here, but his company were later taken over and relocated. There are not many opportunities at the level he is at in his industry, so the chances of a more local job are pretty slim.) His office is out of town, and not near a hotel, so he has to drive (or get a taxi - same difference) from his hotel to the office - his car is too small to carry a bike to use locally when at work. To take the train would be a very long journey, and he'd still need to use taxis to get around once he got to the station/ hotel.

I am 32 weeks pg, and also have CFS/ME which restricts how much walking I can do - my OT currently reckons about 10 minutes is enough. Cycling would be out of the question given my circumstances. I have 2 preschoolers, whose nursery is in town, a 10 minute drive, but an hours hilly walk to get there (and the same back, twice a day) mainly up a 60mph narrow-pavemented busy road. The bus comes through the village infrequently, and does not pass near to nursery. The hospital I am booked at is a 45 minute drive away (more in rush hour), and having had 2 EMCS I don't think my chances of managing a home birth (however much I would love one!) are very great!!

We have paid for a holiday in Cornwall the week after the Easter holidays, which our 2 DDs are really looking forward to (as are we), and I'll be pretty gutted if we can't go / have to spend the week trawling the area for diesel.

I try to drive economically, and my car has fuel saving technology (a conscious decision to try and be more economical / environmentally friendly), and I do try to combine trips into town so I don't waste fuel, so I think I'm doing the best I can. If we lived / worked in town then, yes, I think we could get away with using the car very little (we used to live in a large town, walked to work and the shops etc on a regular basis).

I have just had to refuel because I had very little diesel left in the car. Tesco Express had one working pump, and the queue was about 5 cars ahead of me. I've already had to go to hospital once for monitoring, so can't let the car get down to fumes. To be fair, they had put a member of staff on the forecourt to manage the queue, and it was all very good tempered and well managed.

I do think people have been whipped into a frenzy by the media. I keep up to date with the news several times a day, but even then, when I put the BBC News Channel on yesterday, for a few minutes I thought there was an actual strike starting because of the way the story was being reported! Telling people to store fuel in a can is just asking for trouble IMO, because as someone said up-thread, then you get people storing it in coke bottles Shock, or in fish tanks and the bathtub like in the last strike.

I hope the dispute can be resolved without a strike. I would rather live in a world where there are unions and the right to protest than not, but it is annoying when your political principles conflict with the practicalities of your daily life. :)

Labradorlover · 29/03/2012 13:57

I remember in 2008, running on fumes, trying to get home from the north of Scotland. Had to get a pal to find and phone petrol stations to see if they had any diesel. Managed to buy £20 worth and just got back home.
Diesel ran out much quicker during that strike, esp in rural areas.

nannyl · 29/03/2012 14:23

the only thing that bothers me slightly is being able to go on our holiday next thursday....

normally i could manage without my car at all.... im a SAHM, and OH cycles 1 mile down the road to work.... we live a 5min walk from a supermarket, and all our friends / activites are within a very short walk....
we can walk to MIL's too if we have to (we walk there in the snow)
Ocado came this morning so i have more than enough food to last until next weekend, and i have cupboards / freezer / cellar full of food too so no issues there.
I breastfeed my 6m baby so wont be running out of milk for her Wink

My car is currently 3/4 full..... not enough to get to and home from our holiday though

ByTheWay1 · 29/03/2012 15:02

Last strike time I was 39 weeks pregnant and went into labour with a breech baby I was worried........ we had no fuel and had to call an ambulance.

Having gone through the worry and angst of that, this time I am not worried at all... :)

MrsGuyOfGisbourne · 29/03/2012 15:10

Anyway, with all these petrol stations temporarily out of stock from the panic buying will mean a lot of overtime for the drivers to get the stocks back up... it's an illl wind, and all that...

TheSecondComing · 29/03/2012 15:13

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wordfactory · 29/03/2012 15:15

Well I thought so too thesecond but if everyone is buying the fuel and there's non eleft tomorrow, I'm buggered.

ivykaty44 · 29/03/2012 15:20

I walked to tesco to get a few bits - there are about 50-60 cars queing to get petrol, the manager and assistant manager are out int he road trying to direct the traffic.

In store they are bemused as the tanker comes to fill the pumps every single day - thats another 7 days worth of petrol to come through yet before any strike can happen - it is mad out there!

queenrollo · 29/03/2012 15:25

my nearest garage has a contract with the NHS so is only refueling PCT vehicles. I asked at the local shop if it was worth me going into town to top up and she said tow main garages have run out again despite a delivery yesterday, and the others have hideous queues. In fact i'm 5 miles out of the town and my main road is backed up with traffic!
I'm on quarter of a tank, it'll do me the necessary journey I have to make tomorrow so I'm hoping it calms down enough for me to top up over the weekend.

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HmmThinkingAboutIt · 29/03/2012 15:33

Yesterday evening the local garage was busier than usual so I walked down to our local garage about 1pm today. Massive queue all along the main road.

Hmmed and arhhed about it for an hour then gave in and went and filled up at 2.15pm as we are going away this weekend and would need to fill tomorrow anyway.

I'm slightly relived I bit the bullet and did now, although still annoyed with myself for giving in at the same time.

The garage was already out of unleaded by the time I got there and only had vpower and diesel left, and only half the pumps still had vpower.

It took half an hour to of queuing to fill up. And from the pressure, you could tell it was close to empty. I would be amazed if there was still fuel left now.

We live in a commuter area so fuel is important here as public transport isn't an option for many people and in the previous strike we ran before anywhere else. I know the garage has irregular deliveries at the best of times too.

I don't think we'll have the same problems as the last strike, however I don't really fancy having to track down a garage with fuel and queue for hours either.

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