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This is insane

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horsesforcourses1 · 27/03/2012 19:42

I just heard that a friend of a friends DD has just got a brand new 3 bedroomed council house, she?s single, no children and 20 years old !!!!

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AwkwardMary · 28/03/2012 08:35

I bet its a thing like my brother has....which is a private housing association where an old and local estate rent out their many houses and cottages for low rents...it's easy to get one, my bro only waited for a year and he now has a lovely two bed, period house with a massive garden for 450 a month!

OhDoAdmitMrsDeVere · 28/03/2012 08:42

I was in a two bed council flat. My friend lived in an identical flat above me.

My rent card said 7 people could live in my flat
Her rent card said 9 people.

The rules were that a child counted as half a person and a baby under 1 didnt count at all.

I am crap at maths but I expect someone could work out what that meant in terms of maximum occupation.

I think there is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar more to the OP than it appears. I am not shouting TROLL. I mean there is more information than has been given.

Brand new, 3 bed houses that are purely socially rented do not get given to single young people.

Unless there are some pretty huge mitigating factors.

They move people out of houses they underoccupy round here. Unless you are firmly on the tenancy you will be out. That means adult children of tenants who have died, even if they have lived there all their lives.

Adayforthinking · 28/03/2012 08:42

Apparently every new development has to have a percentage of 'Social Housing' or 'Housing Association' properties that are paid for by the Government.

We have a new development still being built (about 100 yards up the road) and were told at the public meeting that a certain number of the dwellings would be Social Housing. Much to the disgust of most of the old people at the meeting - not sure who they think gets to live in the properties Hmm.

LST · 28/03/2012 09:04

Aday, yes i think your right we've got 3 near us. I think it's a really good idea!

BusinessTrills · 28/03/2012 09:21

YABU

LST · 28/03/2012 09:24

It is U if a single person actually HAS been given a 3 bed though!

BabyDubsEverywhere · 28/03/2012 09:30

I know someone who has was given a three bed council house (old one though) last year, shes very much single and has been for a long time. The whole system is a joke.

captainmummy · 28/03/2012 09:57

I know a single guy who is in a 3 bedroom housing-assoc house. He was married and fostered kid so got the house then. He and wife then split, he kept the house.

He lets out the other rooms. All on benefits. He's absolutely raking it in.

horsesforcourses1 · 28/03/2012 10:13

Some of the responses are quite fascinating, why would anyone waste their time posting something that was not true? I don?t really like being called a liar either. The girl said she had been given a three bedroomed house by the council, I don?t know what she meant by that but she most certainly had photos and keys for this new house that she had been given. I wish I hadn?t posted it now I just thought it sad that houses are being given to people that don?t really need it.

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ComposHat · 28/03/2012 12:22

why would anyone waste their time posting something that was not true? I don?t really like being called a liar either

Because these boards are often chock full of things of trolls telling lies - there are thread after thread of claimant bashing threads making wild claims about what 'benefit people' were getting that those of us have worked in related fields know not to be true.

Your post has the same key features 'a friend of a friend' or 'a woman I've heard about' is on benefits and getting some outlandish amount of money/living the life of Riley and I am outraged' The troll concerned citizen will then return regularly to the thread to protest that 'it's true, it's true, why would I lie?'

It may be coincidence that your post has those self same qualities. However let me share my experiences of working for social services with vulnerable Care Leavers aged 16-18 in two local authorities and supporting them towards independent living.

Quite often they would spend weeks and in some cases months in skanky Bead and Breakfasts waiting for accommodation to come up. None were offered anything other than one bed flats, often in really dreadful condition - more often than not little more than a completely bare shell (kitchen and bathroom aside)

Unless Peterborough is shitting houses, I would imagine the scenario is very similar, so I'm sorry the story doesn't stack up for me.

lesley33 · 28/03/2012 12:26

compos - where do you work? Because although rare where I iive there are some streets where social landlords have real problems getting anyone to accept tenancies - for good reasons. A single person could get a house there.

Dawndonna · 28/03/2012 12:30
Biscuit
horsesforcourses1 · 28/03/2012 12:36

Because these boards are often chock full of things of trolls telling lies - there are thread after thread of claimant bashing threads making wild claims about what 'benefit people' were getting that those of us have worked in related fields know not to be true.

Oh ok, I see. Well I was just reporting what I had heard/seen. I shall take what I read on here with a pinch of salt if that?s the case.

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ComposHat · 28/03/2012 12:40

Lesley - outskirts of Edinburgh and Leeds.

fraiserno · 28/03/2012 12:45

So much for all you read in the papers.

lesley33 · 28/03/2012 12:48

I know outskirts of Edinburh has some very rough estates, but also that there is a real shortage of housing. One of my siblings lived in 2 bedroom HA flat for about 4 years with DP, baby and MIL. Don't know about Leeds though, but always seems a desirable place to live.

There aren't many places, but there are some areas of the country where there isn't an overall shortage of housing so the majority of people do turn down HA housing in the very very roughest streets. Whereas in most places they have no choice but to accept it.

SarahDoctorIndyHouse · 28/03/2012 12:56

I shall take what I read on here with a pinch of salt if that?s the case.

Well taking what a friend of a friend says about her DD would be a start!

You weren't reporting what you had heard/seen. It was third hand at best!

horsesforcourses1 · 28/03/2012 13:02

*Well taking what a friend of a friend says about her DD would be a start!

You weren't reporting what you had heard/seen. It was third hand at best!*

The Mother told us later the DD turned up with her keys and photos on her phone of her new house. Anyway I have better things to do than argue over this.

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SarahDoctorIndyHouse · 28/03/2012 13:09

The Mother told us later the DD turned up with her keys and photos on her phone of her new house. Anyway I have better things to do than argue over this.

Am now sitting in a puddle of my own wee, innards from split sides, and coffee leaving my body via my nose from laughing so much.

I take it this is a joke Horses. Good on ya!

Codandchops · 28/03/2012 14:44

Horses don't take this to heart on here. I just think what they have said to you has not been the whole story - especially not a brand new house. Unless of course she is part buying or has another issue that you don't know about.

KateSpade · 28/03/2012 18:31

This happens round about where i live, all the time. Here its really common.

I know that this happens, i haven't experienced it first hand, but i've seen it. So, if you don't believe her, then believe me.

It happens.

AutumnSummers · 28/03/2012 18:45

Yes, it happens. Our council always offer flats to people who are applying for thier firt council property but many refuse because these flats are horrible to lie in. They are then offered a house and 1 / 2 bed houses are scarcely avaliable. They can only offer what is avaliable in the areas chosen in the prospective tennant's form.

It is madness, but it is allwoed to happen because people get 2 housing offers before they are told that they will be removed from the waiting list.

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