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to have told my mother to get a grip...!

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spg1983 · 18/03/2012 18:51

Ok firstly apologies bc this is a long old story! And secondly yes I realise it's mother's day and I hate the fact this happened today, but I felt like this had to be said and it just happened to come up today.
Background on this is that my mum has been married twice, my dad died and then she divorced my stepdad about 10 yrs ago. Mum is engaged again but no plans to marry. Since my dad's death, mum has received a v generous annuity and worked part-time as well, she was able to move to a bigger house with only a 20k mortgage after his death. However, she has taken on an increasingly luxurious lifestyle, i.e. 2 or 3 cruises per year, she owns 2 luxury cars, goes out for lots of meals, buys clothes every day etc. At first we didn't begrudge her this as she'd been thru a hard time but after a while we found out she'd re-mortgaged so may times that there's no equity left in the house, all her credit cards are over the limit and she is in arrears with mortgage and hp agreements. She won't answer her phone unless she knows who it is and is getting very stressed. However, she doesn't know we know this. When we spoke to her about it she was more worried about how we knew rather than the problem itself.
In the meantime, the house is getting more and more untidy, things are not being replaced when they are broken, the shower doesn't work, there are holes in the floorboards and the boiler keeps breaking down. The biggest problem, however, is the garage. It is a double garage, filled to shoulder height with everything that has broken or been grown out of over the years. There's an old kitchen, a fridge, a huge photocopier, 2 TVs, a computer, a sofa plus other various bits of furniture. It is infested with mice and is also blocked from the outside as one of her posh cars is broken and cannot be moved off the drive!
My brother and I have offered to help clear out lots of times and have told her to sort out a date, hire a skip and we'll chuck it all out. She hasn't taken us up on the offer but a fortnight ago, our nanny died and she needs to store nanny's stuff in the garage. So...she sent us a text saying she'd booked a skip for today, would we come and help? My brother and I both said yes and we also all met on Wednesday to discuss the final details, i.e. size of skip and what to do with the fridge. Last night I texted her to ask what time to come and she told me that she'd not booked a skip as she didn't know we were definitely coming (!) but would we come anyway to sort stuff out-this is impossible as the garage is totally blocked. My brother and I did go and start sorting but it was totally pointless, however the reason we got angry was that absolutely none of this was her fault.
I know that this is a really petty thing to get angry about but our point was that she'd asked us to come and we did, yet it seems that she's not pulled her finger out and sorted her end of the deal-it's the principle more than anything. Anyway, we spent 3 hours "discussing" it this morning, she did not say sorry once and spent the whole time blaming everyone but herself. I told her that I think she needs to get professional help as she seems so overwhelmed by the problems around her and is just lashing out because she couldn't bring herself to start sorting things out. She fully admits that the stuff in the garage is junk and she wants it gone but can't seem to get organised enough to pick up a phone and get my brother, me and a skip at the same place at the same time.
Again, apologies for a super-long post on a v trivial matter but...am I right to think that she's got some issues? Or am I just being overly harsh and shouldn't be angry for her lashing out at us?
Please help! Thank you!

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olgaga · 18/03/2012 23:07

Well I don't think you have been unreasonable in telling her to get a grip, but I think you need to be prepared for her to tell you to mind your own business.

I'd suggest lay off it for a while, or she may stop communicating with you at all.

Bossybritches22 · 18/03/2012 23:09

Bloody hell she's younger than me I thought she was elderly too.

Her reaction (hanging up & ignoring) is ,IMHO, because you have hit a nerve.

I think MisF1t is right, you need a family conference, (without the boyfriend) with the grandparents too so there's no "he said , she said"

Tell her simply that you are all worried about her, you love her & you want to HELP her before her house is re-possessed or falls down around her ears.

Ask her to confide which aspects she is most worried about and then make a list. Get her to cut up all her cards & make the minimum repayments by DD each month to keep plugging away at the debt. (she may not want to discuss the nitty-gritty in front of all the family but it has to be done, possibly later bewteen you & her but not avoided)

She has to realise its crunch time and that if she she doesn't sort herself out it is your sister who will suffer.

If she refuses well you may have to step back & let her get on with it I'm afraid, she's an adult and she has to make & live by her own mistakes.

Sorry to be harsh, sounds awful for you xx

olgaga · 18/03/2012 23:10

Just read your last post. I think your heart is in the right place and you're clearly very concerned, but I also think you need to step back from making everyone else's problems your own. Sometimes, no matter how hard it is, you have to let people get on with it and take responsibility for themselves.

spg1983 · 18/03/2012 23:11

Thanks olgaga, that's good advice. Although it does seem to be a yearly cycle of trying to get her to sort things, she subsequently makes it look like she is and then it all falls apart, even worse than before. Don't want to feel that I didn't do enough.
Having said that, I've heard a few post-bankruptcypeople say that after house repossession, they sat in their empty rented house with no furniture but actually felt happy for the first time in a long while as all the juggling of finances and daily stress had stopped. Really hope it doesn't come to that though.

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olgaga · 18/03/2012 23:25

Having had similar experience with a family member all I can say is that when everyone got fed up and stopped doing so much for them (eg getting them out of financial and other messes) they did finally manage to pull themselves together.

Some people just won't take advice, even when they love you and trust you. It sounds as though she's been quite cushioned and may have to face some harsh realities before she gets her act together - that's if she ever does.

If you want to preserve your relationship with her, I'd try distancing yourself a little and not getting so involved. It sounds like you've said what has to be said, but if you have no influence then you are not responsible for what happens. Her decisions are hers and her partner's to make.

The same goes for your sister. Seventeen is old enough to understand financial limitations, and if she won't take advice, she will also have to find out the consequences the hard way.

spg1983 · 18/03/2012 23:48

Thank you for all the excellent advice :)

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