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to think my 'so called best friend' has been a biatch (warning long)

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lickatysplit · 18/03/2012 16:45

Hello ladies

I just want some unbiased opinions regarding my ?friend? and money. Abit of background my ex finished with me in the summer of 2008, I was devastated and needed to get away (we still worked together) so I suggested to my friend that we get away for a few days, whilst searching online I thought about Disneyland Paris, I had never been but she had and loved it, although she couldn?t afford it this time. As she was my best friend and had offered me a shoulder to cry on I offered to pay for both of us, she felt guilty and said she would pay a little towards the trip, we worked out that over the 5 day stay the park passes would be about £100 so this would be her contribution, I would pay for the Disney hotel and travel. We booked for sept 2008, she was going to pay me in instalments, we were both really excited and just before the trip went to get our euros together she was worried she didn?t have enough so I lent her an extra £100 just to tide her over (I am by no means made of money).

Her DP had agreed to drop us off at St Pancras and pick us up on our return, I gave him petrol money of course, we had a great time but on the last day her DP called to say he had been arrested for no licence, no tax and no insurance so we would have to make our own way back from St Pancras, I put both our tickets on my credit card again she said she would pay me back for her share (he had his day in court and was only served a fine)

Fast forward to feb 2009 my birth month and still not feeling my greatest I asked her about going again, same agreement for the 5 days she would contribute £100, we booked to go in march 2009 (so stupid as she hadn?t paid me a penny towards the last trip but I needed cheering up). We worked together and a few days before the holiday she had a call at work from her DP that the bailiffs had just been round threatening to take their things unless they paid them £400, she was crying and very upset so I offered to lend her the money, she seemed really grateful and said as soon as we got back she would set up a direct debit to start paying me back. The bailiffs were due to arrive whilst we were away and on that day she got a call from her DP, I heard her say ?of course I?ll have to tell her? when she hung up she told me that her partner had managed to sort out a repayment plan for the bailiffs and instead was going to use the money for a security course (that?s what he didn?t want her to tell me) she said once he had got his security licence and a job (she was the only one working he looked after their son) they would be able to pay me back quicker, I said nothing in hindsight I should have said I needed it back I was just shocked she didn?t ask if that was ok, I reasoned that him getting a job out of it would be a good thing, except he didn?t do any courses although he has since found a full time job but within another field

It works out at over £800 when I?ve mentioned it she says she will look over her finances but she should be able to afford £25 every two weeks, brilliant I thought but so far I?ve had a payment of one £25 (only received because she wanted to borrow a carpet cleaner from me and her offering up the money was an incentive for me to let her) and one £30 (again only received because I offered up my bank details to get the ball rolling).

During this time she has been to see that that, boyzone, and other things like soccer aid more times than I?ve had hot dinners, in march last year she seen boyzone 4 times once was even in Ireland so not cheap, her DP is into gadgets so wastes his money on that. I know its non of my business what they spend but when she claims poverty to me I cant help but feel upset. We were both made redundant last year and received redundancy money but I didn?t expect any of this.

We had a big barney in dec on fb over this (which led to her agreeing to my partner collecting £10 a week, I cant face her so far only received £10) and we haven?t spoken since, now this part makes me sound like a monster. Her DP?s dad was killed in a car crash just before Christmas 2010 and in autumn 2011 he received some inheritance money I don?t know how much but since then its been spend spend spend new tv at £1000 (she told my DP the price) new sofa, living room furniture ps3 (even though they already have an Xbox and wii - greed, I know shouldn?t judge) ipad, new phones plus other things. Now the big monster part - I seen on fb that they had booked to go to Disneyland Paris something inside me snapped and I let her have it with both barrels, I told her I thought she was taking the piss and that she should have paid me back by now, although she gave as good as she got.

If you?re still awake after that lot bless you, Jesus wept its long I guess I don?t know how to do gist?s, so is she a biatch or at least a cow? Or is it me?

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lickatysplit · 18/03/2012 17:42

Just to be clear we were both adults and her child stayed at home with his dad, I?m starting to think I?m weird now, that was my first time I didn?t know what to expect but it was fun and I?ve been again since with my DP. We just seen it as a fun girly trip I wasn?t hugging Pluto at every given opportunity - promise, I didn?t even take any photos we just went for the rides. I don?t feel that I pressurised her to go she was very willing and since having her child we had hardly seen each other, (we mostly worked different days) so it benefited both of us. When things are beneficial to her i.e that that gigs (that sounds weird their pensioners it must have been a concert) she finds the money to do them.

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FidgetPie · 18/03/2012 17:44

I read 'birth month' to mean when the OP's birthday is

OP - I think you have both been pretty stupid - I don't think you'll see that money again.

lickatysplit · 18/03/2012 17:46

God I'm making a hash of this february is my birthday, her child didnt come, she used the time to have a break

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Stratters · 18/03/2012 17:50

My brain hurts from reading all that. YANBU to want the money back you leant to her for the bailiffs, the rest I think you should put down to experience.

still don't get why 2 adults would want to go to bloody, bloody, hideous Disney.

IloveJudgeJudy · 18/03/2012 20:08

As Judge Judy herself says, if she didn't pay you back after the first time, then it's really your fault for lending her more on top. Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. Sorry.

CreepyWeeBrackets · 18/03/2012 21:47

Never mind Disneyland:

"in march last year she seen boyzone 4 times once was even in Ireland so not cheap"

WHY?

HalfPastWine · 18/03/2012 21:53

Both her and her partner sound like complete users. I think you may have to write this money off and keep away from her in future. Anyone who behaves like this isn't a friend imo.

LoopyLoopsIsTentativelyBack · 18/03/2012 21:53

A break from her child... at Disneyland? Shock

Fecklessdizzy · 18/03/2012 23:22

Sorry, but you're never going to get the cash back ... For Gawd's sake don't lend her any more!

Best to put it down to experience and move on ...

Myself, I'd pay NOT to go Grin

ComposHat · 19/03/2012 00:35

Disneyland, Xboxes and going to see Boyzone?

Am I out of touch, but aren't these all things for children and teenagers?

CaoNiMa · 19/03/2012 03:42

Neither a borrower nor a lender be, for loan oft loses both itself and friend, and borrowing dulleth the purse of husbandry.

treadwarily · 19/03/2012 03:42

She is not going to pay you back.

The only way forward for you is to let it go.

You can, however, stop feeling bitter about it if you accept the situation and use it as a lesson (albeit harsh) in why it's never a good idea to lend money to friends. You will grow as a person and probably find yourself making better-quality friends.

Lougle · 19/03/2012 07:00

I just can't get over booking a trip to Disneyland because you 'still weren't feeling your greatest'. How sself-indulgent is that? Next time watch a film with some icecream like everyone else. Hmm

Proudnscary · 19/03/2012 07:17

You both sound a bit ridiculous

Please don't tell me you let her have 'double barrels' over Facebook?

redexpat · 19/03/2012 09:06

Can you threaten small claims court? Sometimes the letter alone brings results. Try CAB.

Travelling alone is great for the soul OP. You meet so many more interesting people. Try it!

Floggingmolly · 19/03/2012 09:17

She is not your friend, and it is far too late to recoup any of this money now. Draw a line under it now, and in future don't lend anything you actually want to be returned. If it is returned, it's just a bonus.

ohdearwhatdoidonow · 19/03/2012 09:30

I have lent a quite large sum of money to my best friend. I did it on the understanding it would take a LOOOOOOOONG time to get it back, If I got all of it back at all.

She needed it more than me, she was in a desperate situation. I've had about a 5th of it back. No way would I stop being her friend.

If I couldn't have afforded to "write it off", I wouldn't have lent it to her. She's like a sister to me.

warthog · 19/03/2012 09:35

friendship is over.

never never lend money unless you're happy to give it as a gift. lesson learned i think!

BrightnessFalls · 19/03/2012 09:45

Why didnt you just go to Alton Towers?

fallenpetal · 19/03/2012 09:56

I agree with most posters, you asked someone with little or no money to go on holiday - I dont think you should expect any back really. They are enjoying their new found money, I dont think there is anything wrong in that when they have clearly had issues with the baliffs threatening.

What I cant understand is why you would do it a second time?
Fun or not if she cant afford it she cant afford it. The £400 for bailiffs yes that should have been repaid but you are on cloud coocoo if you think she should pay back the privilege of cheering you up!

In future don't lend money!!! Do less indulgent things to get over problems (some of us just spend 30 quid in the pub and mope with chocolate for a while ffs!!)

PoultryInMotion · 19/03/2012 09:58

I think she's been a cow and you've been very foolish unfortunately. I'd be resigning myself to never seeing that money again, which I know must be very annoying.

DH and I have been to disney 3 times, without children Shock Grin

aldiwhore · 19/03/2012 11:04

Never lend money for specific things. If you lend money, you lose control over what its for as soon as you hand it over. If you lend money, get something in writing.

Sorry, you're soft. How many times do you have to be bitten before you learn the words "sorry I can't help you"?

I can't even see the money as a loan. You want something, you offer to pay for it... that's what you've been doing. That would be a gift, a bribe, a payment of services rendered.

Toughen up missus! If I were you I'd learn to start loving holidays alone or accept that if you want this particular friend to go with you, you will be paying!

QuintessentialyHollow · 19/03/2012 12:15

You know, not sure if you are still reading this thread, but there is one thing that occurs to me.

The friendship has been very one sided.
When your relationship broke up, you expected her to be a shoulder to cry on, and go on an expensive holiday with you, spending money she did not have. She went, despite hardship.

Then you requested the same again a year later. And again, despite hardship, she went.

Then you start asking for money back.

You sound high maintenance, and very demanding. I think you should just consider the friendship over. You have not just spent your friendship, you have overspent.

HannahZ · 19/03/2012 12:51

All a bit harsh on the OP, I feel? Yes, far too soft for her own good and it looks like the money's gone for good - but high maintenance and demanding?? FFS, OP had offered to pay for everything on a holiday bar a £100 token contribution. Her friend could have said no, sorry, can't even afford that but instead chose to go on a heavily subsidised holiday (DL not my cup of tea, but again, friend was presumably not forced at gunpoint).

Then when friend has the money to pay it back, she instead spends it on useless shite. How anyone can say they are equally to blame is beyond me.

OP, sorry you've been had. Chalk it up to experience Sad

lickatysplit · 19/03/2012 13:02

Thank you poultry in motion, there were loads of adults there without children, I?m glad I?m not the only one who will admit to going there. As for the poster calling me self indulgent that?s uncalled for I was in a very bad place after my break up we had been together for seven years and it came as a total shock so did his mistress and I was still working with him so I don?t think I?m a princess for taking two holidays. Most people look forward to their one foreign holiday a year, I?m no different.

Redexpat thank you for your suggestion, I would feel a bit crap taking it in that direction and wouldn?t hold out much hope anyway if they?re dodging their £1200 council tax bill then I stand no chance.

Brightness falls - really wish I had then this whine wouldn?t have come about.

Its also interesting to hear that some people think if you invite someone on holiday you automatically foot the bill, what about a pub invitation are their drinks on your tab all night? Certainly get your round in but don?t become their personal chip and pin. Yes I invited her, and I footed 8x the amount she said she would pay, fair enough if she genuinely cant afford it but surely doing all those other things is rubbing my nose it in. she pays for what suits her life style - treats for herself but doesn?t think she should pay her council tax and water bill, she boasts that she hasn?t paid a water bill since time began because in her words ?you need water to live they cant legally turn it off so I don?t pay?.

Quint - I wasn?t holding a gun to her head after all no means no if she really couldn?t go I would have accepted that, relationships break down its only natural you want your friends around you, just like you would be there for them, or I?m I missing something? I wouldn?t expect her to tell me to fuck off and find another shoulder. I was stupid the second time round, as someone said fool me once and all that. If you?re tight with money people don?t want to know and if you?re generous people can take advantage.

Thank you hannah for your kind words, i was a bit shocked to be called high maintenance.

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