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...to object to the use of the word 'chav'?

85 replies

MariaFormosa · 14/03/2012 20:20

I wouldn't refer to any other group of people by a derogatory/contemptuous name, so why is this so widely accepted? Isn't it just as prejudiced as some well-known racist terms which, thank god, are unacceptable in everyday conversation? It's really starting to get to me when I hear people (even some pretty good friends) talk about "chavs" or something being chavvy - it makes me cringe ... yet I've not been quite brave enough to challenge/question it. Just read a post where someone referred to someone as being "a bit chavvy" .. AIBU to think it's being contemptuous? What does it really mean?

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catus · 15/03/2012 15:36

YANBU. Not at all. And the fact that it is more to do with taste than anything else doesn't make it better in my view. So some people have more money than taste, so what?
Having good taste is not a virtue, it says nothing positive about you. In the same way, having bad taste and thinking Mariah Carey is a true artist doesn't actually say anything about you as a person.

LeQueen · 15/03/2012 15:47

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DinahMoHum · 15/03/2012 15:50

i dont have a problem with its use any more than i have a problem with calling a punk a punk or a goth a goth.

usualsuspect · 15/03/2012 16:32

You don't see any goth/punk threads/comments on the baby names board , so its not the same really is it?

I've lost count of the it's chavvy comments on there.

Silverthorns · 15/03/2012 17:01

Grin at goth name threads.

usualsuspect · 15/03/2012 17:04

Morticia is it to goth? Grin

thebody · 15/03/2012 17:33

It means council house and violent.
My dh grew up on a council estate and is the least violent person I no.

Thug, waster, benefit cheat, much more descriptive.

campergirls · 15/03/2012 17:39

It does NOT mean 'council house and violent'. Why would anyone invent an acronym for a phrase that makes no sense? Even the more coherent version sometimes put forward, 'council housed and violent', is transparently a 'backronym' coined by people who make negative assumptions about council-house dwellers. The Wikipedia entry on chav is actually pretty useful.

TheSkiingGardener · 15/03/2012 17:44

It seems the Telegrah agrees with you here

And nobodies really sure where it came from but pretty much everyone agrees that Council Housed and Violent was assigned to it after it became common usage.

quirrelquarrel · 15/03/2012 17:59

Oh god. Not this again. You sound out of touch. You are out of touch.

It's not awful, nasty, sneering or anything like that. They call themselves chavs and no, it doesn't have anything to do with demonising the w/c. The first girl on the street to go to uni doesn't carry the label of "chav" to halls. My understanding of the word is, besides just being able to recognise them in the street- people who are incredibly narrow minded, people who don't care about much of anything, people who always want more.

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