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To not care about my works smoking ban

44 replies

McHappyPants2012 · 13/03/2012 18:59

From tomorrow no body will be able to smoke in the hospital ground, for myself I don't care ( I am a smoker) I have always changed out of my uniform and if I want to smoke I can leave the grounds.
However I do feel sorry for patients as they will have no where to go

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Tee2072 · 14/03/2012 18:57

Our hospital has signs and an announcement on a loop blaring and people still smoke.

Mrsjay · 14/03/2012 19:15

AT our local Hospital the patients stood outside under the Huge no smoking sign Grin , we all know smoking is vile and antisocial but i do think if patients are smokers they will find somewhere to smoke and it could be dangerous for them and others , Lurking round corners flicking fag ends away ,

Mrsjay · 14/03/2012 19:20

pinsandnoodles thats awful and will be worse for the paients , ive familiy memeber with severe MH problems and he has been in hospital and he needs his fags during these times , I think its the only way he can cope ,

Mrsjay · 14/03/2012 19:20

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cakewench · 14/03/2012 19:21

I'm not a smoker.

People will still smoke. Removing the shelters does nothing but invite people to smoke where they please outside. I'm glad we don't allow smoking inside public buildings anymore, but this sort of thing is ridiculous.

madhairday · 14/03/2012 19:42

I think they should put shelters up for patients/staff, but not in daft places like right under the windows of the respiratory ward where I was fighting pneumonia Hmm

Bit daft to ban it altogether. People will simply flout the rules. Can't really expect patients to suddenly give up. Although it was a sad sight seeing people from the COPD ward with their oxygen tanks having a fag.

McHappyPants2012 · 14/03/2012 20:22

Well it went rather well today, didn't see any one smoking on the grounds.

Still early days, it has kind of given me an incentive to quit as it took 1/2 my break to leave the grounds and come back luckly it nice weather can't imagine having to do it in the rain.

Phone stop smoking Wales today and will have an appoinment soon :)

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cookcleanerchaufferetc · 14/03/2012 20:42

I drive by a hospital where people have to go off site to smoke. It is lovely seeing people in their dressing gowns puffing away .... Especially the pregnant ones who are aout to give birth .... Nice!!

canyou · 14/03/2012 21:02

I agree that is very wrong to prevent those with MH issues and the very elderly from smoking and to deny them a safe place to smoke, from personal experience it cause more problem. The last conversation I had with a loved one was an argument about why they could not smoke he died 8 hrs later Sad
But I also feel that the smoking area should not be right outside the hospital door, meaning everyone has to walk through a smog of cigarette smoke

Smellslikecatspee · 14/03/2012 22:04

I HATE smoking and the smell of smoke

However smoking itself is not illegal, it is a source of comfort to those who do and to expect them not to smoke at times of high stress in their lives is cruel.

When I was nursing I fucking hated it when they banned it at our site and got rid of the patients smoking hut room.
We were constantly finding people smoking in the loos, bathrooms, empty rooms , stairwells etc. at least when they were in the delightfully nicknamed The Cancer Hut, I knew where they were.

The amount of times the fire alarms were set off by smokers was stupid and costly. Not to mention dangerous.

And to be honest the hut was so stinky many of them were put off smoking anyway.

And rightly or wrongly the thought of a cigarette could be used to calm confused and/ or aggressive patients.

And it was easier to enforce the no smoking in general areas When you could direct people to the smoking room.

elijah13 · 01/04/2012 11:23

I think its a good thing if the patients can't smoke...it may actually help them get better quicker.:o After all, hospital is there to make people better, you don't want to have to breath it in as you go into the entrance or when you are waiting around and the smoke goes in through the window or when the entrances doors side open.
Sensible move by the hospital.

NettoSuperstar · 01/04/2012 11:28

Someone smoked in the ward toilet of the hospital I was in recently.
You won't stop someone who is determined to smoke, and better they are outside.

PosiePumblechook · 01/04/2012 11:31

So if someone is dying of cancer, they can't go outside and have a cigarette???? Shock I'm an anti smoker but sometimes you just have to allow people to abuse their bodies if they want to, one designated area away from everyone would be okay surely???

DameHermione · 01/04/2012 11:42

it won't work.

Of course people need to be encouraged and supported to stop but people are usually in hospital because either they or a family member or loved one is ill. Massive stressy time and just not the best time to force people to stop.

And people will just stand the other side of the boundry to smoke, so you'll have patients dragging their catheter bags and drip stands down the drive. Which actually looks really bad if you are approaching a hospital site and there are 20 people all puffing away as you turn in.

PenguinArmy · 01/04/2012 12:05

I'd prefer it if there were proper smoking areas that were used. Both hospitals that I gave birth in, I had to walk through the smokers for various scans, admittance for birth and walking DCs out. Both places had bans and yet people only smoked just outside entrance doors.

pumpkinsweetie · 01/04/2012 14:30

Its a massively stressful time for patients loved ones and family and when someones family membet is seriously ill or close to death they should be allowed to smoke in a designated area. I have never smoked but i have had family members which have needed a cigarette at times like this.
People give up when THEY want to and when someone close to you is really ill is not the right time to do that so what the nhs and goverment are doing is very wrong Angry.
The nanny state in which we live has got plain ridiculious, in an open outside area i think we should be able to do what we want as human beings within reason of course

JustGiveMeTheWine · 02/04/2012 11:32

The trust that I work for have tried to ban smoking numerous times over the years. It's never worked!

They've done it again so all the staff are smoking off site outside peoples homes so it's only a matter of time before the residents start complaining. They can't stop the staff going off site during their breaks when they are in normal clothes so what can they do then?

They have a designated smoking shelter for patients and relatives for traumatic circumstances though.

I re-read the new policy and it states that no members of staff will be able to use this shelter if they are a patient or visiting a relative in stressful circumstances as they will be disciplined! As if staff are immune to stressful situations just because they work there! Hmm

CountryMouse27 · 02/04/2012 16:55

I have been in and out of our local hospital last week via the maternity entrance. I was very :-( at the amount of heavily pregnant ladies standing on the dirt and bushes under the trees in their pj's and slippers next to the main door.

They're all nattering away and then as we approach the doors everyone falls silent and gawps at you as you walk in / out.

Nice.

giveitago · 02/04/2012 18:41

Unsurprising given it's a hospital.

I don't work for a hospital but I will take fag breaks - it's my way of coping with the woman who sits next to me doing bloody zero all except surfing the net and me doing both my and her job and the boss cooing over 'her' achievements.

I deserve my fag breaks - they keep me sane and are take far less time that people going off to make teas and coffees etc.

But a hospital is a place where you shouldn't smoke.

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