British Citizenship fees - why in the name of sanity.....

[Lottapianos]

.... do I have to pay EIGHT HUNDRED AND FIFTY POUNDS to have a form processed?

Sorry for shouting but it drives me around the bend. I'm happy to pay a fee but Christ on a bendy bus! They say it's to cover the administration costs and the cost of the citizenship ceremony you get invited to if/when your application gets approved. I can only imagine it must be an Elton-John-style White Tie and Diamonds Ball if that's how much they are charging!

Anyone shed light on why it's so bloody expensive? Is there a good reason or are they just taking the you-know-what? Thanks!

carers are the same as sahm contribute nothing ....financially.

And please answer my other question before I go.

They would not have to leave and probably never would want to as they would never have to pay health insurance here and get a monthly handout.

Question still not answered.

The question is not stupid.......... it is cheaper for you to live here and not work thats all I am saying.

I am off to food it's far calmer.

yay. while no one can demand you justify your existence once you are a citizen, tere is still no shortage of twats who delight in informing you that you'll never really quite be a citizen, or the equal of people born here

So what iamme Leonie is entitled to live with her family wherever she feels her family would be best off and where they are legally allowed to live. It's a choice any mixed nationality family has to make. It's a perfectly rational choice and not your place to judge.

it would seem totally beligerent ignorance is v calorie intensive

Chibi, you are extremely naive to believe that the legality of obtaining a passport suddenly gives you British ethnicity and culture too.

The passport is just paper.

Ha, that's true remains. My husband will never be 'british' despite having a certificate showing that he is and doesn't really want to be. He has his own culture and language. But he's respectful of British customs and traditions which is probably a lot more than many British born and bred.

Precisely. So while Chibi and I are legally the same. We will never be the same on a deeper level than that.

And why would anyone want to erase their own ethnic and cultural history anyway?

I find it all very odd.

whether or not i can froth myself into a frenzy over land of hope and glory or jerusalem, or who i cheer for in the cricket (no one, that shit is weak), i am a citizen with equal standing to any other citizen

i will never be ethnically english/welsh/irish/scottish. big whoop. i am nonetheless a citizen. it is personally more than just a legal status to me, but the value of it as a legal status is not to be sneered at nonetheless

i don't understand why you would be so keen to point out that i will never really be british enough for the likes of you. why on earth would anyone care, and how could it possibly diminish me?

many countries allow dual nationality

nothing about me, ethnically, legally or culturally was deleted on receipt of uk citizenship

how very strange that anyone might think otherwise

Of course being a carer is contributing to society.

I am proud that British society includes people who're dedicated enough to be carers - god knows they are not doing it for the money.

I am less proud British society includes wastes of space who think caring is not a valuable occupation. I wonder what will happen to those people when they are elderly and unable to work - will they be kicked out?

Yes you are a legal citizen. That is clearly all you think it is. A legality.

But for some of us this is the country we were horn in, that our parents, grandparents and great grandparents were born in. It's more than just 'getting through customs without a hassle'. This is our homeland. It's just not the same as just being a citizen.

Born in....trying to type with whingy DD on my lap!

you have no idea what i have given to be here, what i contribute, what this land means to me, and you never, ever will

i am absolutely not going to unpack my heart for you to sneer at and insist that, nope, i still don't belong, nor am i your equal

I believe all humans are equal. Just not the same.

Yes, it's the country my grandparents, great grandparents, etc. etc. back for as many centuries as I can work out, were born it.

That does not, oddly enough, make me a xenophobe. I do not feel xenophobia is part of British culture. I think it is a recent myth made up by the Daily Mail to make the dregs of society feel at home in a country they don't deserve to belong to.