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Mother of child who is bullying my child wants to be my friend.

13 replies

Yourefired · 08/03/2012 01:50

The reason I joined MN was because at the end of y5 my DD1 was being horribly bullied by her ex-BF who has subjected her to horrendous behaviour and I needed someone to advise me in the early hours (thanks to those who did). The situation was very bad, and the mother of the ex-BF phoned me on three occasions to basically deflect the problem from her child to mine. Along the lines of "it's because your child is argumentative, a liar" etc. She would then tell me all her family problems and start crying, this happened on two of the three occasions. I responded by not reacting to criticisms of my child and then trying to help her with her situation, which was indeed bad and deserving of sympathy. I can't explain without huge detail how bizarre these conversations were.

I quickly realised that I needed to go through the school, and told the other mother I was doing do, out of some misplaced sense of decency I think. She also went to see them, which is her perogative. The situation now in term two of y6 is that this child continues with bullying when she can get away with it, but the school are really on to it so there are minimal opportunies for this to occur. And my DD has made other friends. They will not be going to the same secondary school. The situation really is as good as I can make it until she leaves. It has an equilibrium.

Now for the bit where I turn into a child. The ex-BF mother sees me as her friend. She contantly seeks me out at the school gate and sends the odd text. I really do not want to associate with her, given her lack of sensitivity over past events. Bluntly she really hurt me. More importantly I think it sends out a bad message to my DD, in that I am dismissing what she went though. I have tried standing in a group, or engaging in deep conversation with another parent but there she is. I have never blanked her or been rude, it's not in my nature. Although given the things she said about my child most people would.

Ok now for the difficult bit. She is an unpopular school gate mother. No-one is interested in her because she has spent the last 7 years not been interested in anyone else. She is difficult to talk to, and prior to this i was the only one who made the effort for many years. I suspect, and a thoughtful other mother, who knows nothing of this situation, first put the thought in my head that she has aspergers, or some other socially limiting disorder. reading this back I sound like a total bitch, but I cannot emphasis enough the distress this woman's child and her response caused. So what do I do. I feel I am in danger of wanting to bully (by this I mean at worse male an excuse and walk away pointedly) another vunerable mother, whose DD is happily bullying mine without sanction from the parents. my alternative is to keep on having to talk to her at the school gate when quite frankly I want to clip her child round the head and tell her to leave me alone. Talk some sense into me.

OP posts:
NarkedPuffin · 08/03/2012 02:14

So her child still bullies yours given the opportunity and the mother's only response to date has been to blame your child?

What do you think you should do???

butterflyexperience · 08/03/2012 02:17

Sounds like a crap situation
I can understand you wanting to stay the heck away from her.

Not sure what to advise...

How about if you told her over a coffee that due to past difficulties you would prefer she leave you alone - in the nicest way possible of course

butilikesalt · 08/03/2012 02:25

Well, her DD is going to a different secondary, so you have only a few months left to negotiate this.

You could be honest: "Your child is still bullying mine. I don't want to be friends under these circumstances." However if she's already a bit of an emotional mess, it could somehow boomerang onto your DD.

You could keep doing the avoid avoid avoid thing. It's worked up to now. And come July the problem will largely disappear. You can ignore her texts and calls until she gets the message.

ilikecandyandrunning · 08/03/2012 06:24

I think you should be straight with her why. Maybe she needs to hear it to realise what her daughter has put your daughter through. She has done her dd no favours by excusing her behaviour. Time to stop being nice.

WinkyWinkola · 08/03/2012 06:44

You are SUCH a good person, op. And very adult about all this at the risk of sounding patronising.

I would have a calm and Frank conversation with her and explain that you are not interested in being friends. And if she starts in on your DD again, say, "This is exactly my point. You say bad things about my child. Good bye."

I wouldn't let someone get away with that. I mean, if her DD is such a bad bully then she is troubled and her mother is refusing to deal with that. And on goes the merry cycle of bullying at the next school.

Perhaps you could pull her up short AND stop her hanging around you.

If you can be bothered.

PomBearAtTheGatesOfDawn · 08/03/2012 07:38

"I have never blanked her or been rude, it's not in my nature"
and there's the root of your dilemma right there. If you can't bring yourself to say anything to her, then she's never going to know how you feel, and she will carry on "being your friend" as she sees it, while you just stand there smiling weakly and saying "oh that's nice" or whatever it is you say. Shame your DD suffers for "your nature" though.

SomethingSuitablyWitty · 08/03/2012 08:15

I don't agree with others who are implying that you are somehow being weak or a pushover in relation to this woman. I think you are behaving admirably and in an absolutely adult fashion. You are not friends with this woman, but you have remained pleasant and civil despite everything and she obviously likes you for it - hence the annoying friendship overtures. She sounds like she has enough on her plate and I wouldn't "punish" her for her bad past behaviour. Keep things pleasant, without encouraging any greater closeness of course - it's only until your DDs head for their separate schools anyway - and be proud of the high levels of empathy, kindness and self-control that you are demonstrating.

BigGirlInASmallWorld · 08/03/2012 08:20

There are two sides to every story. I'm not a popular scholl gate parent as i do not tell the other parents my business and i do not give a flying about their personal business.
You engaged in chat with this woman on the phone, whats up with you?

I think you got some kind of emotional probs, get therapy before happens again.

warthog · 08/03/2012 08:22

i think you're doing the right thing actually. don't encourage the 'friendship' but i wouldn't blank her.

she has behaved / ing abominably and you have treated her with respect. she clearly does have very big issues.

i would bide my time - july will come round very quickly.

Bletchley · 08/03/2012 08:28

It's not long till the end of primary now. Just say as little as possible to her. You don't have to socialise or anything.

Callisto · 08/03/2012 08:29

That first time the woman called your DD a liar should have been enough. I'm amazed that you give her anything at all, especially as her daughter is still bullying your daughter whenever she can. I think you are a pushover actually, sorry.

puds11 · 08/03/2012 08:40

i would just say that out of respect to your daughter, and setting a good example, you cannot associate with the family of a school bully, especially one who has and still is targetting your daughter.
If you do have a friendship with her i think your daughter would fell as though what she has been through is being played down

bobbledunk · 08/03/2012 10:06

Smile politely and tell her that while the school is doing a good job keeping her child from bullying yours most of the time, she still does it at every available opportunity and what is she going to do about it.

Respond to any excuses or attempts to deflect blame onto your child with a polite but firm lecture on how it's not fair for other children to suffer for her refusal to take responsibility for her child's behaviour and unless she start's agreeing with you, walk off.

Repeat this every time she approach's you, she will either start avoiding you or agreeing with you and begin to address her child's behaviour.

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