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...to tell my mum she can't stay with us after our wedding? (long)

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aurynne · 03/03/2012 21:33

Background: I am originally from Spain but I have been living in New Zealand for 6 years, and have a kiwi DP. My mum and my sister came last Christmas for a visit, for the first time, and I spent 3 weeks showing them this wonderful country. They had the time of their life. however, my mum was an absolute pain to both my sis and me... even though my sister and I are 29 and 35 years old and have been living on our own for ages, she is stuck in our "teenager years" and treats us as such. She is incredibly annoying to have around, she will ask us whether we "had brushed our teeth and had a wee" before going out, will tell me to make my bed and where to put my clothes in my own house, will argue my own house rules... you get the picture. My sis and I, on the other hand, get along beautifully.

Fast forward a couple of months: my DP proposed recently and I said yes Grin. We have decided to get married in New Zealand I did mention to him that this would be inconvenient for my mum and sister, as they had literally just left New Zealand, and I assumed they would not be coming. Same with most of my Spanish friends: the economy and job market there is dire, most of my friends are struggling and I did not even contemplate any of them paying for a trip to New Zealand to see me getting married. So initially, and as we are both pretty relaxed about it, I suggested to just take a couple of friends each and get married as soon as we got the licence, and then go celebrate in our favorite restaurant. Next time we went to Spain we could have a party there.So, that was the plan.

When I called my family to give them the news, they were absolutely overjoyed! To our great surprise, many of them have pleaded with us to delay the ceremony, because they would absolutely love to be here and need time to save and organize holidays. My sister declared that she would be here even if she had to take a plane the following day. Many of my friends have surprised me by saying the same thing! They can't guarantee they will make it, but many will do all in their hands to be here.

I was really touched and teary over this show of love from my family and friends, and my DP and I agreed to delay the wedding for a year. We have decided to do a very low-key ceremony, wedding at the beach, no dressing rules, absolutely no presents (if anyone wants to contribute to the wedding, they are welcome to take photos/help with decorating/sing/play an instrument... whatever, but no spending money), and a barbecue instead of a banquet. DP and I have already booked a whole adventure centre for everyone to stay for the weekend, in the middle of a forest, and just a short stroll to the beach. There is a playground and obstacle/adventure courses for kids and not-so-kids to have fun. At night, if the weather helps, we can go to the beach, light a big fire and drink and have fun together. Both accommodation and food and drinks will be covered by DP and I.

So, family and friends have started planning how to organize their trips. Most of them are turning this trip into a holiday, as it would be silly to do a 30-hour (one-way) trip to New Zealand only for a weekend, and DP and I are more than happy to help them organize everything from here (accommodation, car rentals, advice of places to see and things to do...). My sister is coming with her DP and they will be renting a campervan after the wedding. One of my aunties is actually organizing a 3-week trip with some of her friends, and we have told her that her friends are also welcome to come to the wedding if they so wish.

My mum, on the other hand, is trying to put pressure on me. "You know I don't speak the language and I would be very dependent on you", she said on the phone last time I spoke to her... "I can't go for just a weekend, what would I do after that?". Well... there are many things she could do after that... my auntie has definitely let her know she would be welcome to join her group for the tour of New Zealand. She could come with my dad and rent a caravan (both of them drive). She could join an organized trip. But what she really wants is to stay with us and for us to take her to places after the wedding and be her hosts.

And to be perfectly honest, I don't want to. Last Christmas I had time to "mentalize" myself before she was here, I took 3 weeks holiday just to be with her and spend the three weeks making her happy. My sister did enjoy the trip, but lost her patience with mum many, many times over her controlling and demanding ways. We had to go wherever mum wanted, do the things she wanted to do, stay at the places she chose, she would question my ability to drive in New Zealand, my understanding of English (she doesn't speak a word of English, and I have been living and working in English-speaking countries for 10 years... but she would not trust me to tell her what was written on signs, or what other people were saying!!!), she would tell me off for "letting DP do the dishes" instead of doing them myself... a million of tiny annoying things. But it was ok, it was her holiday and I took it in and smiled for the whole 3 weeks.

But I don't want to have to do this again after our wedding. We still don't even know whether we will take a week to have a short "honeymoon" or not, but even if not, I will want to spend some time alone with my new husband, enjoying the happy "just married" feeling and having hot sex in every room of the house. I don't want anyone else in our house, especially not someone who will be annoying and making us feel uncomfortable in our own place. No one else has assumed we have to "take care of them" in New Zealand after the wedding.

However, I don't know whether this would be expected of us or not. Am I being selfish in not offering my mum to stay with us after the wedding? What would you do if you were in our situation? Is it normal to ask the bride and groom to "provide accommodation and care" for guests after the wedding, when the wedding is far away?

I am ready to be enlightened by the wisdom of MN :)

OP posts:
tigermoll · 03/03/2012 22:53

Don't have the wedding in Spain! Your life is in NZ. You have offered to have a party in Spain next time you are there, your mum can ruin come to that if she wants to.

Go ahead with your plans. They sound awesome. Your mother is being well unreasonable.

Sandalwood · 03/03/2012 22:53

yanbu
Tell her you're having a honeymoon.

CailinDana · 03/03/2012 22:57

In your shoes I would say "Seriously mother, you want to come on honeymoon with me and my new husband? Seriously? You do know what couples do on honeymoon, don't you?" and then laugh as if she's being utterly ridiculous.

2rebecca · 03/03/2012 23:36

Agree with Cailindana. Keep emphasising to her that after weddings married couples have a "honeymoon" and that you and your husband are wanting some time together and tease her "come on mum you don't really want to be the sort of MIL who insists on coming on the honeymoon do you?" and reinforce that honeymoons can be in your own house or country and just because you aren't going abroad doesn't mean you aren't having a honeymoon.

GnomeDePlume · 03/03/2012 23:56

What CailinDana and 2rebecca said.

Also, of course you should get married in NZ, it is your home.

flyingspaghettimonster · 04/03/2012 04:18

Sure it has probably been suggested already, but can't she come before the wedding and leave when the weekend is over? She might enjoy being useful with preparations and wouldn't spoil your honeymoon period.

thelittlestkiwi · 04/03/2012 04:35

Your wedding plan sounds awesome. Don't let her ruin the honeymoon. Maybe you should go away and let her stay in your place while you are away? She'd probably end up with lots of people offering to look after her.

diamondsagirlsbestfriend · 04/03/2012 06:59

your wedding sounds awesome, if you don't mind me asking where abouts in New Zealand are you getting married?

mrsmellow · 04/03/2012 07:13

I agree with flyingspaghetti about maybe coming for a week or so before?
Or, the giggle about her joining you on your honeymoon, why doesn't she spend a week with your Aunt while you have a honeymoon, then maybe come back and stay with you for another week after that - a bit of a compromise -you still get to be a newly wed christening all the rooms in the house, but she gets to spend time with her daughter, who after all, lives on the other side of the world, I'm sure she misses you? But absolutely put your foot down about the days immediately after the wedding.

For what it's worth, after we got married (me, not in my home country) - we had a few friends and family stay (with us and nearby) for a few days and delayed our honeymoon by 5 days and I really enjoyed those days re-hashing the wedding and looking at photos etc - but then we had a week away in the sun 'getting to know each other' Wink

CheshireDing · 04/03/2012 07:25

Gosh don't have her stay, she has lots of options, you will only have one wedding and honeymoon (hopefully), don't let her ruin it.

We got married 5 hours from home, most people made it in to a little holiday and went off driving around to their new locations the day after the wedding.

Enjoy your day it sounds lovely.

Ohforfoxsake · 04/03/2012 07:34

If you were getting married in Spain then no, but you aren't. She's coming thousands of miles to be mother of the bride, and is probably delighted and excited by the prospect of her daughter getting married.

If you didn't want the responsibility you should have stuck to your guns in the first place and had the simple wedding you originally wanted.

It's lovely everyone is making a massive effort for your wedding. You and your husband have the rest of your lives together. If I were you, I'd see the wedding as a two-week event, incorporating all your family and friends who have chosen to travel. Then 'after the wedding' will come when they've all gone home.

I don't doubt she is a massive pain In the arse, but she's your mum. Is it really too much to ask for such a short time? If it is, then you need to do the planning for her and make the arrangements with your auntie or whatever, so as not to hurt her.

Under the circumstances you are being selfish, and it is understandable that you want this time, but you already live together so is it worth it? It's not as if she can pop round for a brew every day, and she rarely impacts your lives more than once or twice a year.

Proudnscary · 04/03/2012 07:47

No she's not being selfish, ohforfoxsake.

Maybe only those of us with mothers like this can understand how much they can sabotage/ruin/undermine our happiness.

OP say no to her staying.

Your wedding, like everyone else says, sounds gorgeous. And the fact that so many friends and family are making such a long journey says a lot about you - congrats on your engagement!

eurochick · 04/03/2012 07:57

I agree with almost everyone else. I think you should also tell your aunt, sister and any other close relatives what is going on here. One of them might step in and gently force your mother to join them. (And if your sister doesn't want to, you could offer to do the same for her when it is her turn.)

fedupofnamechanging · 04/03/2012 08:01

No one stays with a bride and groom. She is being completely unreasonable and totally selfish.

Instead of feeling guilty about your mum, start feeling guilty about your poor husband, if he was forced to put up with mil, during your honeymoon!

I think your wedding sounds lovely, but I suggest that you do actually go away somewhere for a honeymoon, otherwise you may well find yourselves landed with her. She sounds like the kind of woman who will ignore what you say and turn up regardless, expecting you to fit in. That can't happen if you are not there. I would even go so far as to not tell her where you will be on honeymoon - is she the type who would book a trip there too?

memphis83 · 04/03/2012 08:10

No way! Tell her you plan on having hot sex in every room and dont really want an audience! Grin

iscream · 04/03/2012 08:23

aurynneYou are definitely not being unreasonable or selfish, so don't worry about that.
Your mother has many other nice options open to her, to even consider imposing on newlyweds is unreasonable.

Maybe talk to your father, and ask him to get her to see sense.
Your wedding sounds like a lot of fun.

QuietNinjaLamp · 04/03/2012 08:31

Your wedding sounds fab. Yanbu. We got married on a Friday and my mum thought she was going to stay the weekend with us. I told her no chance.
Give her a list of options like going with your aunt etc and tell her she can do any of these but once you're married you want some alone/honeymoon time with your dp.

NotAnOstrich · 04/03/2012 08:40

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NotAnOstrich · 04/03/2012 08:47

Sorry, stupid phone. Congratulations OP! I think you should get your sister and auntie to help make plans with your mum. Be kind but honest that you need the time after the wedding for you and your new DH.

My mum sounds similar to yours and controlled / ruined a family holiday we had recently so much that me and my sister (27 and 29 at the time) spent much of it crying out of earshot and wishing we weren't there. I LOVE my mum but she has a challenging personality and I wouldn't choose her as a honeymoon companion.

Your wedding plans sound lovely btw!

Kayzr · 04/03/2012 08:53

YANBU!!!

Just tell her no. Repeat until she gets the picture or tell her you are going away for 2 weeks.

You are already providing all the accomodation and stuff for the wedding don't let her stay with you.

ByTheWay1 · 04/03/2012 09:11

Mmmm we live a long way from home too, but my mum stayed with us after the wedding. It would have felt wrong and ungrateful if she had not. We had lived together for a year already - so had no need of a honeymoon - we planned a trip to Florida a month after the wedding as we knew mum would be with us for a week.

My mum is not easy to get along with, but she is my mum - we have precious little time together as it is, I will be with my hubby for all eternity... so we just sucked it up and enjoyed the honeymoon period once she had left. I would not say we had "enjoyed" her being there, but a wedding is not just about that anyhow.... We know we would have worried ALL the time if she was not with us, so it was also bit of damage limitation to have her with us.

midoriway · 04/03/2012 09:18

My parents traveled around the world for my wedding, and even they, the clingiest, most socially clueless people in the world knew not to stay with me and DH after wedding.

It is just not on.

They turned the wedding into an excuse for an extended holiday and had a ball, exploring parts of the world they would never had seen otherwise.

From my experience, I think mums of daughters living on the other side of the planet struggle to come to terms with the fact the daughters have become complete grown ups while they have been away, particularly if they went away very young. I left my homeland at 22, 14 years ago. It has taken my mum a long time to come to terms with the fact that I am not a recent graduate incapable of basic functioning.

FannyPriceless · 04/03/2012 09:23

No, no, no, no, no!!!

The best option here is to work with the aunty to get her away. I say don't take any risks with 'dropping casual hints' either. That could go badly wrong. I would go so far as to actually make the arrangements set in stone for her to join to aunt's travel group, so she can't wheedle out of it. Do not give in. She is SO out of line on this!

Wish I had got married on a beach in NZ!Grin

midoriway · 04/03/2012 09:27

However, my parents did stay with us a week prior to the wedding, so it isn't as though we didn't see them.

ItWasABoojum · 04/03/2012 09:37

You sound lovely and your mum sounds like a pain in the arse. Stick to your guns and tell her no. Anyway, what a waste - staying with a newly-married couple who have other things to do rather than exploring NZ! She has a year to learn a few words of English if the language barrier is a problem (and I'm sure that would be a nice wedding present to your DP as well, assuming he doesn't speak fluent Spanish).

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