To be fed up with 'green' celebrities and chefs lecturing us all on the need to pay a fortune for organic and farm shop food.

[MrsHeffley]

Kevin McCloud-apparently cheap food comes at a cost to the environment and we should all be buying food from farm shops.

I used to buy 100% organic food and food from farm shops Kevin but I now have 3 kids to feed and a very squeezed budget.

Yes I now buy Savers apples instead of finest,heritage apples from wooden barrels but to be perfectly frank I'm in no position to blow a months budget on one weeks worth of food.

Also Kevin we don't all live in million £ eco barn conversions and walk around in £350 shoes.

it is possible to be green without the designer price tag.

And the cookware they use...all v posh.

YANBU to be fed up

But YABU if you think they should stop promoting that sort of thing just because your budget (and mine!) doesn't stretch to it.

It's all about educating people and then leaving the decisions down to them.

it is possible to be green without the designer price tag.

grow your own!

If everyone ate organic we could only grow enough food to support 1/3rd of the world's population. Which 2/3rds should we let starve?

A litre of organic milk requires 80% more land than a litre of non organic.

YANBU

Interesting article in todays Guardian you might like here OP

Some Farm shops are a pile of shit. I buy as Eco and whatever as possible. I spend a fortune on food regardless, i do not shop at poncey farm shops where some local lady is selling over priced lemon drizzle cake, the cafe is bigger than the shop floor, the car park is expensively gravelled, the jams are all st dalfour (yeah so local mister farmer). I buy free range,organic and shop locally but I do not line the pockets of those who have turned farm food into some sort of luxury, it used to be an affordable way to eat...they have turned it into the preserve of the middle classes who weekend in the Cotswolds.

Honest to god, I went to a small farm shop the other day and 2 small lamb chops were £7.90

Actually my veg is never organic, I live near a wonderful green grocer and prefer to support local business than worry about Eco credentials. It is great to see independent shops survive and thrive despite the supermarket onslaught.

YANBU.
I cook mostly from scratch, adore good food and bring my DD up to see home cooking as the norm.
However, all these bloody lectures about organic/local/free range blah blah just piss me right off.
I'm doing my best, and my best is eating really well.

Give me more money and I'll do it their way, but on disability benefits, it's somewhat limited.

Organic and green are two different things anyway, and free range or "humane" production is something else again. There are somany different accredtations and standards and awards, and it's quite surprising how little a producer has to do to get some of them, and some of the methods they can use and still be classed as organic or free range etc. If you seriously want a particular provenance for your food (not treated with particular chemicals, or the way the animals are raised and treated and so on) you need to look deeper than the label.

but not everyone is struggling... so by the same token, people who can afford to buy the most expensive stuff do not need to watch programmes about how to make ends meet...

Errr... don't listen to the lectures? I've no idea who Kevin McCloud is and don't feel compelled to obey him.

YANBU. We can't grow our own either, we live in a flat.

I second "Just don't watch it".