To think that Privatising the Police is a bad idea?

[NarkedPuffin]

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The Tories have finally gone insane.

Quote from Guardian:

The breathtaking list of policing activities up for grabs includes investigating crimes, detaining suspects, developing cases, responding to and investigating incidents, supporting victims and witnesses, managing high-risk individuals, patrolling neighbourhoods, managing intelligence

What do you mean, FINALLY gone insane? They always have been!

Of course, for a truly 'big society' answer, we should be allowed to form social enterprises made up of concerned citizens, able to win contracts to go around 'detaining suspects'. Or "let's form a posse" as they might have said on Bonanza.

Very scary indeed.

I've never been in line with their policies but this is just mad.

Frontline policing being run by private companies? Shareholders making profits from cutting police numbers?

Surely this will alienate a lot of their core supporters?

Maybe they feel that it doesn't matter if they alienate some their supporters as they are unlikely to vote for any of the alternatives?

It's the sign of a corrupt, contemptible approach to the citizens who put them in power.

If this goes ahead the riots of last summer will become commonplace by the time our kids are adults.

They're doing so many destructive things simultaneously. And they're getting away with it because of general apathy. People don't seem to care.

If they stay in for the rest of their term there won't be any way to repair the damage they've done

Are there precedents for semi-privatising the police force? When I lived in Mexico they had to supply their own firearms and it was well known (at least in my city) that you could be 'fined' for a fairly substantial amount of cash for a traffic violation if you were obviously foreign.

Contract has been awarded to g4 group in Lincolnshire including running custody suites. Starts soon I think

People do care puffin people had a riot! I think everyone was too quick to condemn those that took part. Won't be long before we all join them.

They're dazzling people with the atrocities that all these bloody foreigners commit.
That's how they get away with it, smoke and mirrors. FUCKERS

This does sound like madness but I think you will find that under labour government the fireservice was part privatised without anyone knowing.

Really learning? Is it actually happening?! Will Group 4 be taking people on WorkFare?

Were the people holding the hoses employees of a private comapany?

Companies like Group 4 - now G4 - were brought in to deal with the transportation of prisoners ages years ago under the Tories. Quite a few escaped. Private companies are used in to provide 'back room' support to the police. Having them investigating crime, interviewing witnesses and making arrests is a huge step.

Any criminal lawyers around? Would be interested to hear their take on this. Surely big implications for prosecutions if evidence gathered by private firms with potential conflicts if interest efc

FFS, MADNESS.

What could possibly go wrong if you introduce a profit motive to things such as crime investigation? Lets see - they will be paid by results so, they wouldn't just fit up likely/probable criminal people to bump up their success rate, would they !

No Narked but I was making the point that this happened with the fireservice quite a while ago under labour. All this bastard tories stuff (I think all government stinks)

Fit up likely probable crime oldmum? Maybe they will become a bit more pro-active instead of re-active then?

It was all over the local news last week. Iirc staff are being moved over for April.

Apparently it should improve efficiency but savings will still need to be made. And we are not to worry about it.

I don't particularly like any of the parties. Privatisation started under the Tories. It was not reversed under Labour and many more 'Public Private Partnership' deals were introduced. This is going further than ever before and, if introduced, will never be reversed by any party.

what would happen to the 10% of England and Wales Policeforce, currently off on long term leave/sick or on minor duties?

I think it doesn't cover frontline staff but back room staff, call centres and the custody suite (definately as they are building a new station)

I'll look at link to our local paper

It worked perfectly well in "Robocop". I can't see a problem.

Another quote from the article (sorry Mr Justine)

The home secretary, Theresa May, who has imposed a 20% cut in Whitehall grants on forces, has said frontline policing can be protected by using the private sector to transform services provided to the public, but this is the first clear indication of what that will mean in practice. May said on Thursday that she hoped the "business partnership" programme would be in place next spring

So cutting the money police forces get from central government by 20% won't have any impact on frontline policing?????

Whatever happened to 'The Party of Law and Order'?

I'm working class by the way and "new labour" seemed to act the same. There is no such "government for the people". However I do remember that life was far easier with old Maggie.

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We are now heading towards segregation and it's like the wild west out there. I have a son that has been mugged 3 times in the last year. Something needs to be done, maybe after a leftie knee jerk reaction it will.

at least you know what you get with the tories instead of turncoat labour.