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AIBU?

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to refuse to compromise any longer about where we live?

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HexagonalQueenOfTheSummer · 29/02/2012 09:30

I have always wanted to live in a brand new house. I like a clean house, and everything neutral and in good order, and my ideal would be to live in a new house.

I feel like I've always compromised on what I want in the past; DH has always said an out and out 'No' so I've always gone along with what he wants. We bought a small house when we'd not been together long, quite an old, but small, house, which was quick to do up and we got it in good order. However we then needed a bigger house and with DH's refusal to buy a new one we bought the house we live in now, which is around 40 years old. We've lived here for 4 years now.

It was old fashioned when we moved in, although definitely ok to live in, however DH was adamant he wanted to do it up but what he has actually done is completely messed it up and it is worse than it was when we moved in, he's started so many jobs and not finished them. He decided on a whim 18 months ago one day to change the spindles in the bannisters, so he completely ripped off the stair carpet. 18 months later we still have bare, unvarnished spindles and no carpet. He insisted on knocking a wall down between the kitchen and dining room which has resulted in the downstairs of the house feeling very 'busy' and cluttered as there is nowhere separate to eat now. He decided on another whim one day to decorate our bedroom so he cut all the carpet back past the gripper bars, painted the walls, and pulled other parts of carpet up so now our bedroom, which although was previously in a cream shade and with a carpet not to our taste was ok, is a total fucking mess. He pulled the airing cupboard doors off with the intention of replacing them the next weekend and we had no airing cupboard doors for over a year. Basically what I'm trying to say is the house will never be done because as soon as one job is done he either rips something else apart and leaves it, or there will be another job that needs doing.

I am not good at DIY and to be honest I don't want to constantly have to do painting and things like that. It's just not my thing. Hence I want to live in a brand new house. Plus there is no way I can do things in the week with 2 year old DS, who won't nap, running around.

It's occurred to me though that I've always been the one to compromise, just because he's said 'no' why should I give up on what I want all the time? I think he thinks because he's the man he can have the final say on things. So I've actually said to him in the past few days that I want to move to a brand new house and I'm not willing to compromise on this one. If we moved, we would have a smaller house, which would probably be easier for housework etc tbh, plus our mortgage would be smaller. DH has said if it's a make or break thing then of course he will have to move, but thinks I'm being unreasonable but I've said I'm not being any more unreasonable than he is wanting to choose where we live and ripping the place apart at every opportunity.

AIBU?

OP posts:
Quenelle · 29/02/2012 11:49

I live in a soulless box. I don't love it or anything but it's fine. It's bigger than the Victorian terrace we used to own, the garden isn't much smaller and it's detached with off-road parking. And, most importantly, we don't have to contend with 100 years+ of other people's bodges like we did in our old house.

If it's what you have always wanted then it's definitely your turn to decide next time you move. Just be resolute and don't give in. But it sounds like your house would be pretty hard to sell in its current condition. Hell it's not easy to sell any house at the moment is it?

Chubfuddler · 29/02/2012 11:50

How on earth are you going to afford to move then? Seriously, you need to get these bodges of his sorted, especially if you are going to sell.

HexagonalQueenOfTheSummer · 29/02/2012 11:51

We have a lot of equity in our house and would move to a smaller, cheaper house Chubfuddler.

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Chubfuddler · 29/02/2012 11:58

Well I doubt anyone is going to buy it in its current condition. If you've got equity I would get a small personal loan for about a grand, get the professionals in and pay it off monthly or when you sell. And try standing up to your husband - have you actually said "your DIY is crap and you are not to cock about anymore with our house". If not why not.

LydiaWickham · 29/02/2012 12:04

You aren't going to sell it half done, unless you are prepared to take a massive hit on it's value. It would be cheaper to pay someone to fix it all then sell it.

If your DH is actually good at DIY, and is ok with selling, then give him a deadline, I would say a month to finish the jobs, if not you'll have to borrow against the equity to pay someone to do the work then sell.

I wouldn't put up with someone who just took it upon themselves to do major DIY jobs without discussing it with me first, it just suggests he doesn't think your opinion is valid and doesn't see you as an equal partner. That needs addressing more than the stair carpets.

CremeEggThief · 29/02/2012 12:16

Hex, move to a new build, smaller house. Allow DH to move in only if he agrees to give up DIY. His behaviour and refusal to compromise is unfair on the whole family. My DH has to be, em, persuaded to do anything, but starting jobs and never finishing them is even worse.

dressmeplease · 29/02/2012 15:49

Any idea how you would sell your mess of a house in order to buy a new one?

TheCrunchUnderfoot · 29/02/2012 15:57

'When I suggest we get trademen in he gets really annoyed and says we can't afford it etc, I thought about just finding them myself and getting them in but decided it wasn't worth the aggro'

Oh, I think it's worth the aggro.

It's not about tradesmen, it's about you needing to make it clear that Mr. DIY Distaster Zone a. isn't in charge and b. has fucked up quite a lot and therefore is heading towards the point where he shouldn't even be given a say in stuff unless he gets his act together!!

JenaiMarrHePlaysGuitar · 29/02/2012 16:56

Well your dh is being an arse, but you've been a bit of a wet blanket, and I'm quite sure you could manage a bit of DIY here and there. Plenty do.

Most (not all) new builds are a bit crap though tbh. Miniature gardens overlooked by another 5 houses, a bare wall where someone who gave a stuff would've managed a window, bugger all storage, not enough room for a dining table...

Hullygully · 29/02/2012 16:57

I have no idea but just wanted to say hi to Jenai whom I ain't seen in eons..

OrmIrian · 29/02/2012 16:59

Write to DIY SOS and plead! That will shame him into sorting it out Grin

bamboobutton · 29/02/2012 17:05

god! don't buy a new build, they are so shoddily built you wouldn't believe it.

we are renting a new build, we went to put up a curtain rail in the bay window and we could push the ceiling up!! i could hear it making a screeky eee eee eee noise as it went up and down.

redyam · 29/02/2012 17:05

Why the heck do you want to live in a new house? They are like new cars, as soon as you buy them they plummet in value.
The rooms are usually tiny, gardens non existent. They try to cram in as many houses as possible in the plot of land they have. And there is a chance you'll end to living next to someone who gets the house for free being unemployed and on housing benefit.
Oh and the house won't stay 'new' for long. YABU.

OrmIrian · 29/02/2012 17:08

Tend to agree re new builds though. I am sure there are wonderful new estates where the walls are sturdy, the windows never leak and there is room to swing a cat, it's just I never seen one Grin

Hullygully · 29/02/2012 17:16

new ones are shit and bus tickets

OrmIrian · 29/02/2012 17:16

Unless you can afford a non-estate archtitect designed new build that is. My friends have one and it's beautiful but it costs scary amts of money and he's a builder and finished it to his own specs.

Quenelle · 29/02/2012 17:18

Not much chance of me selling my newbuild to any of you lot then? Smile

JenaiMarrHePlaysGuitar · 29/02/2012 19:16

Hullo Hully!

Some new-ish builds are fine. I hate DIY. DP and I are lazy fuckers so the idea of moving into a house where there's nothing to do at all appeals greatly. Where we live new builds are all teeny tiny and many, many ££££££S or in the arse end of nowhere.

We live in a 1940s ex-council house. It's super.

JenaiMarrHePlaysGuitar · 29/02/2012 19:18

Should've been a "But" before the Where we live there. You know what I meant, anyway.

Flisspaps · 29/02/2012 19:28

redyam And there is a chance you'll end to living next to someone who gets the house for free being unemployed and on housing benefit

WTF has that got to do with anything? Confused

DarrowbyEightFive · 29/02/2012 19:55

Moving to a newbuild - even assuming you can manage to sell your existing mess of a house - will not solve anything. Your DH would simply find new projects to mess up - an extension that has to be built but never completed, that room would look great with a knocked-through wall, and so on and so on.

He seems driven to be in a state of semi-completed projects and until he gets to grips with why he needs this, psychologically, nothing will change for either of you. What might have happened in his childhood to make him feel more secure by starting but not finishing something? Sorry for the psycho-babble, but DH feels something similar (but is luckily not drawn to DIY) - his father was uptight and compulsively tidy, but also ripped the family apart with an affair. When DH is being messy he is subconsciously telling his father to fuck off. I have DH the mess under control at home now, but it's always under the surface ready to burst out.

JenaiMarrHePlaysGuitar · 29/02/2012 19:58

I can't imagine living next to anyone on benefits, Fliss

Wink
redyam · 03/03/2012 15:57

So you spend £350,000 on a brand new house, your mortgage repayments are £1750 a month, both of you work full time 50+ hours a week, you have very little money or time left over to do anything you really want etc etc etc......
And your next door neighbour gets the exact same house with rent paid, council tax paid, free dental care, free child care, etc.......
Wouldn't you be just the tweeniest, slightest, just a little bit.... Annoyed?

Chubfuddler · 03/03/2012 15:59

This isn't the daily fail comments section. Move along.

Flisspaps · 03/03/2012 16:53

redyam no, I wouldn't. I wouldn't have overstretched myself buying a £350,000 house. Especially sad if you're spending that money and then living in resentment of your neighbours.

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