To expect a cafe advertising itself to mums of prescholars to have nappy changing facilities?

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The nearest they come to it is a sign in the toilet saying "please take your dirty nappy home with you".

Yet they have loads of toys, under 5 music sessions, under five meal boxes . They are based in a church and even have children's workers in 3 afternoons a week.

Being pregnant I'm obviously keen to find places I'll be able to easily take baby and having taken dd for a sandwich earlier thought I'd found the solution - until I saw the toilets.

I asked about it and was simply told they were unable to provide suitable facilities and the lady didn't know why. AIBU to think its a huge gap given their target market?

I love the word prescholar.

Thanks OP.

Yabu

You say it's in a church, presumably then it is a not for profit operation. Meaning they won't nec. Be able to afford specialist disposal/extension for decent facilities.

Also as is it is not for profit prob staffed by volunteers who do not need to deal with your nappies. And it is almost certainly cheaper than a commercial option.

Sounds like a lovely community service, ywbu to whinge on about nappies, bag them up and take them home.

Another nappy changing facility thread....can no-one change a nappy on their knee anymore? I never need a change table when out and about, I have a lap.

Seems a bit odd, if they've got lots of activities aimed at toddlers.

One of the playgroups I take DS to is based in a church and it has nappy changing facilities in its toilet.

But I also have a little folding changing mat in my nappy bag, so it wouldn't be the end of the world if it didn't have nappy change facilities.

There might well be costs surrounding disposal of nappies, hence them asking you to take soiled ones home for disposal; Take a changing mat, get one in the pound shop

If you are that keen on changing the facilities, join the committee, fundraise for a wall attached unit

Sounds like a great place. Take a mat, change nappies on the floor (I found the lap option not so good but perfectly possible) and take the happy home in a bag. No problem!

Aren't you capable of taking a dirty nappy home?

I hate bring in a baby room that has a nappy bin. They smell dreadful. It's much better if everyone takes their nappies home.

Our children's centre doesn't have disposal facilities or our preschool and at school we have to change them on the floor.

Some of us are not physically capable of using our laps or the floor. And, therefore, we avoid places without changing tables.

How is changing on your knee harder than changing on a table? If you have a seat (I.e. Toilet with the lid down) and you have the strength to hold your baby - it's trivial. Failing that - put a towel or a mat on uour buggy, and use that as a changing table. Once baby is 12 months I change nappies standing in any case - whether a changing table is available or not.

seriously - don't make a fuss - it's really throwing it back in people's faces when they've made an effort tobe welcoming.

Seriously? You've obviously never had major joint issues that make it impossible to hold a baby with one hand while changing them with the other.

On a table is so much easier and the only way I can change a baby at all. Never mind a toddler!

It's a bit odd to ask you to take your nappy home with you. Over the years I've been to lots of church toddler groups and every single one of them has dh somewhere to change nappies and a bin to put them in.

I could never get the hang of changing nappies on my knee,when I tried it ended messily. Changing on a table or even a mat on the floor is the only way I can do it.

Had somewhere to change nappies, not a dh to change nappies!

All I can say is that some of you must have huge laps.

ok I'm cleary being a bit unreasonable.

I dropped DD trying to change her on my knee in a toilet and the idea still worries me to this day. I'll be getting a mat but I just found it a bit strange for such a child friendly place.

i take the point about the cost of disposal though

But you don't 'hold' the baby particularly.

To start, have your bag open on the floor with nappy, wipes &sacks easy to reach. Sit on the toilet with seat down. Put a muslin or mat across your lap if it might get messy.

Lie baby on her tummy across your lap, so that their torso is on your lap, and their legs are hanging vertically downwards. You kind of lean yourself across them so that they are 'wedged' by the arm furthest from the bum. You then pull off the trousers (all the way or part way - depending on the mess inside and your confidence). Undo the nappy tabs and let the nappy drop to the floor. Wipe, and drop the wipe onto the open nappy. Use both hands to put on the new nappy (remember - the baby is secured by your elbow/arm/body - not your hand). Redress. Turn baby right way up and scoop nappy into sack. Wash hands.

Older than 12 months: stand baby facing wall on floor/counter / wherever. Drop trousers round their ankles. Remove nappy, clean, replace, nappy sack. Wash your hands and the baby's.

Either way, much safer and more hygienic than a table - and my DC preferred this method.

Footprints - did your child ever do a runny poo? There is no way I could manage to change my child the way you are suggesting if there was poo involved. I have to moblility issues.

NO mobility issues

so I don't mind the floor either.

well - yeah - runny toddler poo that squirts straight up their vests as soon as I lay them on their back on the changing table, or runny poo that they managed to 'dip' the heel of their foot into while I was wiping, or runny poo that they just had to check out for themselves with their hands.

Try my way. It has several major benefits w.r.t. Poo.

1. the dirty stuff goes straight on the floor out of harms way
2. by lying on their tummy - or leaning them against the wall LAPD stylee, you've effectively immobilised the DC, so they are much less likely to splat themselves in it.
3. child presents bum upwards/outward - which is the dirtiest end obviously.

I am fascinated by all these changing threads as I have, for the first time, been introduced to the possibility of the lap change. I willbe trying it. Perhaps at home first of all for a trial run!

get a changing bag, you will then have everything you need and somewhere to put dirty nappy.
oh and yabu

I am in awe of your lap changing ability. I know I would have just got poo all over myself if I had ever tried it.