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to want to whack my DSis with The Big Fat Reality Stick

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NoWayNoHow · 16/02/2012 15:41

This thread is probably going to massively out me, but I don't care. And I'm genuinely too fed up to have any clue as to whether or not IABU. But here goes.

DH and I moved last year with his job. We get subsidised accommodation with his work, and as such, we decided to hold onto our old house where we moved from until he passed probation period, which he's now done. House is still costing us every month as has mortgage (repayment), so we now want to sell it.

In mean time, we let DSis and BIL who are recently returned to UK stay there short term, rent free, whilst they look for jobs (something they're taking their sweet time about as they have a fat chunk of back up savings and no motivation). Their crap is in our house, and when I say crap, I mean all the contents of their old house which they've taken out of storage but not unpacked (as they don't know how long they're going to be at ours). Boxes I don't mind, but they haven't built their bed or sofa, and are sleeping on a mattress on the floor of one of the bedrooms, and sitting on sofa cushions and a bean bag for living room.

I want to make appointments with estate agents when I'm down there next weekend (old house in different county and only down there every now and again), so have asked them to build bed base and sofa so that when they come to take photos to market our property, it doesn't look like we have frikkin' squatters.

Just had long email. Sofa might break if they keep building and rebuilding. And anyway, they do'nt know where the screws are for it, and finding them will necessitate searching through the boxes. And can't they just move stuff around so that the agent can take photos of empty rooms. And can I decide quite quickly on a different course of action as they've got plans this weekend, and then she's away for a week doing a work trial next week.

AIBU to want her just to suck it up and build the bloody furniture so that our house doesn't look like some kind of episode of "How Clean is your House" on the website when we're trying to sell the bloody thing?

And WIBU to remind her that just because she's away next week, it doesn't mean that her DH's husband's hands will suddenly stop working so he can't take 2 hours to put some flat pack back together?

At the moment, I just want to tell her that the house it either getting photos taken with all her furniture beautifully presented, or it's getting photos done EMPTY!!

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NoWayNoHow · 16/02/2012 16:32

ivana the official line we are feeding the EA and any potential buyers (and it's a line that happens to be true for the most part) is that they are housesitting temporarily whilst they plan their move to London.

But thank you for flagging that up re: solicitors - useful to know...

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RuleBritannia · 16/02/2012 16:45

Yes, do what everyone else has said: charge rent or get them out and sell. Where the estate agents showing people around the house is concerned, it's not just your DS keeping her stuff hidden tidy, it's how clean is the place? From the sound of it, if I were to come and view it with the idea of buying, I would have second thoughts!

DeWe · 16/02/2012 19:03

Well obviously she won't want it selling quickly as she's going to lose her rent free accommodation.

Inertia · 16/02/2012 20:58

It's in your sister's interest to prevent the house from selling, as DeWe says - do you trust that she and BIL will tidy and clean , and present the house so it's as marketable as possible? Or could she be (even without realising) be sabotaging the selling process?

mumsachocoholic · 16/02/2012 21:45

id get them out before they get even more comfortable. it would be very easy for them to 'cancel' potential viewing appointments and your house could just be sitting on the market for ages.this is one of those real relationship testers isnt it. i hope ur sister realises how good you've been to her and not be a bitch about it all.

good luck.

SuePurblybilt · 16/02/2012 21:48

So you're paying their council tax and utilities and everything? Wow.

NoWayNoHow · 17/02/2012 17:44

So, taking advice from this thread, we have told them that solicitors won't allow their clients to buy a house that still has people in it, so they have two options: stay on as official tenants, covering our full mortgage and taking on all utilities in their name and with official rental agreement, OR they need to be out by the end of March (covering the interest part of our mortgage and utilities in the mean time).

Still waiting to hear back...

By the way, I should clarify that we had NO idea they had so much money in savings when we originally agreed to let them stay rent free for the first month (after them pleading poverty) - they let it slip a few weeks later when drunk! Needless to say, that made me cross!

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LydiaWickham · 17/02/2012 20:14

Well done OP, although them out is probably the best for you! Assuming they will be out at the end of March - could you book some work to be done the first week of April so they have to be out? Maybe replacing the boiler and radiators so they'll be no hot water or heating for a week, or replacing the carpets, make it clear they have to be out before that and it can't be delayed for a few weeks (of course, they don't need to know if ever actually happens, just something to put a 'hard stop' on their free loading length of stay).

maddening · 17/02/2012 22:02

but the moving around thing only works for the photos - not the viewings?

ATruthUniversallyAcknowledged · 17/02/2012 22:18

Think really carefully OP. Even if she agrees to pay you full market value, she has little incentive to keep the house in pristine condition. Buyers are not as imaginative as we like to think and your house needs to be spotless & immaculate every time someone goes to look at it (often at short notice)

OkayGrrl · 17/02/2012 22:22

I think they have took advantage of you OP, yanbu.

M0naLisa · 17/02/2012 22:27

kick them out. or charge them the going rate for rental.

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