to be a doctor and be in despair over the future of the health service

[lu9months]

if the bill goes through.

YANBU unfortunately

No. I work in healthcare management and it scares the hell out of me too. None of it is about the well being of patients. None of it.

YANBU, it's frankly, terrifying.

I think the BMA has done a good job in highlighting the most important weaknesses (various papers have been linked to earlier threads on this).

And I find it really interesting that FPHM has now come out generally against - if anyone can spot the problems, it's them.

But - bracing bit - the only thing that will tide us through is a refusal to give in to despair. Even if cornered into and corralled by suboptimal management structures, patients deserve the best and frontline staff cannot do that whilst wringing their hands.

Now, who's going to come up with an alternative plan - especially with health inflation running ahead of headline inflation?

YABNU. At all .

This is one occasion where I am hoping and praying that Scotland will go its own way...

Edith, manage expectations, take the NHS away from politicians who will not look beyond the next election, reduce tickpoxing.

There - I've saved the NHS, singlehandedly .

YANBU. It's depressing. :(

Alternative plan? Sod off and leave it alone.

Well unless I go anywhere other than our local community hospital which basically is just a GP practice, nurse led a&e service with an x-ray department and some outpatient services Queen Mary's Hospital, Roehampton, which was a brilliant small local hospital shut in 1998ish as an economy of scale, the service I receive locally is dirty, rude and incompetent on the whole. I fear for the Health Service unless something desperate is done to be honest. I am sick of the dirt, sick of the unhelpfulness, sick of the rudeness, sick of the incompetence and sick of nurses and hcps treating me and mine like dirt and failing to communicate in any sort of decent manner.

At the risk of being very unpopular with the OP I honestly don't think that GPs are competent enough to run the NHS I can't remember the last time I received an accurate diagnosis from a GP and I constantly have to put them right during consultations - politely, of course - but it honestly doesn't inspire much confidence. Some of the GPs I encounter through work, I wouldn't allow to look after the cat

I'm really worried about this,have GP friends so against it and find it scary that professionals seem so against it but nobody is listening.

Op can you explain what you're worried about,who is against it,who is in favour and how come the nation as a whole just don't seem bothered and that nobody has put a halt to it.

No. My Mum is in hospital at the minute and care is shocking - dread to think what it will be like in the future.

Staff are stressed, some beyond caring (not great for their profession). Would really like David Cameron to be an in patient on her ward (in cognito) and see if he thinks front line staff are not being affected.

hiddenhome, i agree.

Choufleur. Marriedinwhite.

If the care is that bad, report it.

www.cqc.org.uk/

Search for the hospital by postcode and fill out the your experience form. You can remain anonymous if you wish.

Thing is, this is not intended to improve care. That is not it's aim. It's aim is to save money. That is it.

YANBU had an appt with a consultant the other day and the things he was telling me that have already happened concerning the clinics being managed by private providers and what that means for care - he showed the the equipment and stuff - it was really shocking. Honestly I had no idea. I thought it was all still hypothetical. But there is was. The consultant had had enough.

YANBU.

Thanks Thisisnotmylife. Didn't realise I could report to the CQC - I thought that was just for social care. I have been complaining to the hospital.

YANBU.
Please doctors, fight this hard. I feel like the government doesn't give a shit what other healthcare providers think of the bill, but they will maybe be a bit more likely to listen to doctors (totally unfair as this may be)

Once they have dismantled our NHS we will never get it back.

The majority of GPs are pushed just to fit in the amount of paitents that they do have when in heavens name will they have the time do take on more stuff ?- by doing this they will have less time to actually do what they do best which is caring for the sick. Rather lke teachers giving them more paperwork/ goals, aims/ meetings so it takes them away from teaching. Wrong wrong wrong....

As a pharmacist it is terrifying and the loss of highly qualified staff in PCTs is appalling.

I can highly recommend reading the blog done by Roy Lilley - you can subscribe via the NHS managers website (can't link via phone - sorry) - honest, informative, thought provoking, often funny and at times incredibly sad.