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AIBU?

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To not want to catch four buses too and from work?

21 replies

BrightnessFalls · 03/02/2012 16:06

Ok. It's my fault for not having a car. I work for a trust that has merged. Originally the hospital was five minutes from my house then the merge meant that I would be an hour and 15mins and two buses. That's fine and that's what I do. Leave home at 620am and get back at 2215. I've just been told that I have to know go to yet another hospital which will double the travel time and the amount of buses. I won't get home until gone 2300. It will be for three months. AIBU to expect to stay in a job I applied for or can they make me move?

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blondie80 · 03/02/2012 16:18

I'm not sure, it doesn't seem fair what they are expecting you to do, perhaps have a read at your contract and see what it says about being relocated.

Do you know anyone going the same way? You could maybe offer petrol money for a lift?

BrightnessFalls · 03/02/2012 16:30

No. My contract is an old one I think I signed it even before the merge was spoke about.

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blondie80 · 03/02/2012 16:33

When they told you about the relocation did you mention the impact it would have on you personally?

Can you drive? Maybe you should look into buying something that will get you to work and back.

nogoodswimmer · 03/02/2012 16:34

Oh I have done this for a good while (what made it worse was I needed 2 different bus passes for it because it wasn't the same bus co. for my double bus trip - much more expensive!), it was horrible.

You might have better luck posting in the Employment section regarding the "can they force you" angle - there are some very clued up ladies who can help you out wrt the legal/business standpoint... however, YANBU to want to question whether they can make you - your work commute sounds like a massive PITA. Especially going from being just 5 minutes from home originally (which I've never had - lucky you, for a while Smile).

FredFredGeorge · 03/02/2012 16:35

Does it say anything about the location of the job? If not, then the relocation is almost certainly not reasonable, but given that all that would mean is you can enforce your employer to make you redundant it may not be all that helpful if you can't take your skills elsewhere easily.

nogoodswimmer · 03/02/2012 16:36

p.s. as blondie80 mentioned, my solution long-term was to buy a car to use for a while. Nothing fancy, just a second hand one picked for reliability and ok petrol consumption. Much, much less stressful (Esp. when the first bus is running late and THEN you have to wait for a later 2nd bus, IYSWIM), although a bit more expensive overall - luckily my salary made it worthwhile vs. looking around for employment nearer home.

Doyouthinktheysaurus · 03/02/2012 16:37

Are you in a union op?

I would suggest talking to them or posting this in employment/legal section for some advice from people in the know.

If they did that to me, they would be effectively making me leave because I wouldn't be able to accommodate the increased travelling time with my ds's childcare.

thereonthestair · 03/02/2012 16:39

OK, how did the merger take place? Was it a merger of two trusts togetehr under TUPE (Transfer of undertakigns regulations)

How mong have you be employed, is it more than 2 years

The abnswers to these questions will help decide what rights you may have, but it may be that you have been potentially unfairly dismissed, actually dismissed and re-employed, or that they are in fact making you redundat and offering re-employment if for example the trust has no work of your particualr kind where you were employed. If that is the case you may get redundnacy moeny if you don't agree. However in all cases you would lose your job if you argued the point.

also does this impact on your childcare. if so there is another angle to do with indirect sex discrimination

BrightnessFalls · 03/02/2012 16:39

It's not a relocation in fact, they will eventually come to my place. Initially we merged with another and that journey went from been a walk to work to two buses which was fair enough as that was in the air, now they are expecting me to do it again. It would be better for me to move house but I think that is extreme.

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BrightnessFalls · 03/02/2012 16:42

It's the same job in a similar ward. I will gain nothing from being there. I'm on my break at the mo. I'm

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BrightnessFalls · 03/02/2012 16:42

I'm in Unison.

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Smellslikecatspee · 03/02/2012 16:44

Check your contract!!

My first contract with the NHS was actually with the ward I started on.
I was then to be moved to another ward at a different trust which would have meant over an hours travel each way.

the thing is I was offered a job at the second place but turned it down because of the travel.

I was lucky that we had a very good RCN rep at the time that picked up that my contract was with the ward and legally they couldn't move me.

Check if your contract is with the hospital or the trust.

samandi · 03/02/2012 16:57

No, that sounds horrendous. But how come you leave so early and get back so late when it only takes you an hour and fifteen minutes to commute?

OTheHugeManatee · 03/02/2012 17:29

How great is the distance? If it's less than 10 miles and the long commute is mostly because of waits between buses could you cycle?

BrightnessFalls · 03/02/2012 17:29

12 hour shifts!

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Doyouthinktheysaurus · 03/02/2012 17:58

You really need to get your union involved. That's what you pay them for, they should be able to give you some advice.

It sounds awful for you op. We have had some ward closures since we became one massive trust but I know that in the hospital I work in, redeployments have been within the local area or with the hospital.

gasman · 03/02/2012 18:16

You should speak to your union. All the people I've worked with (many) who have been involved in trust mergers and alteration of employment bases have been paid (as a minimum) old base - new base mileage.

That money backdated may well be enough to pay for your car!

OlympicEater · 03/02/2012 18:24

OP that sounds like a horrific commute.

I think you need to check the terms of your contract.

Could you tell your line manager that it is not possible for you to do it without expenses - ie taxi, hire car etc

AllPastYears · 03/02/2012 18:56

Another one saying talk to your union.

NorthernWreck · 03/02/2012 19:05

try this

Or maybe get a cheap car. I worked out that, the buses being so expensive, it would be cheaper for me to drive.Which pisses me off. It shouldnt be cheaper to have a car!
But sometimes it is.

leftangle · 03/02/2012 20:52

I know people working for Royal Mail who have gone to their union to complain about being moved upstairs within the same building - and won!

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