to be fuming about nursery safety......

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DD attends local nursery. There is a large secure outside gate with a high up latch and a secure entry door. At drop off/pick up time there is a lot of people coming and going so gate tends to be unlatched as people constantly coming and going. Front door often held open for each other again as people coming and going. They posted a message on facebook that said could parents please please close doors behind them as there have been SEVERAL instances of children leaving the nursery unattended. Now I understand how difficult it must be to keep control of the doors however AIBU to think once I drop my daughter in the safety of her class it is the teachers responsibility to keep her safe and in her classroom. Children must be leaving classes to get to the front door and out the gate. I am keeping her off today until I decide how to deal with this.

They posted a safety note on Facebook?

YANBU

Parents should be closing doors and not letting people they don't know slipstream them certainly. But I would say that should be more about people getting in than children getting out.
It's hard to know without knowing the setup of the nursery, but both the places DS has been at have had an inner classroom door which children are behind, as well as access doors. At his current place they open up the side gates so parents can come in via the patio/outdoor areas rather than through the main door at drop off and pick up, but when those gates are unlocked, the children are kept indoors, so they can't wander out.
I would generally say YANBU, knowing where the children are and keeping them safe is the job of the nursery until their parents collect, however if parents are wandering in leaving doors open behind them, they are being pretty irresponsible and making that job harder.

The nurseries I've used have a fingerprint system to only allow parents on the system and staff to open the main door.
YANBU.

Yanbu, if there is only one door that leads straight into the nursery, then why doesn't a member of staff stay right by the door and stop any children escaping? Even if parents do close the door,, the door will be opening all the time so quite easy for them to escape if they ren't being carefully watched by the staff.

If the nursery staff are unable to contain children within their "rooms" at busy times (because of toilet trips etc),or if parents are leaving doors open,I think the nursery should increase their staff:child ratio during peak times to cover these scenarios (whilst obviously educating the parents as to the dangers with lack of "door safety").The childrens safety is paramount and the nursery should be doing whatever it takes till this is resolved,surely?

The main door is a buzzer system. You press a high up button and the staff open the door. However at busy times when there is a contant flow of parents/children entering the door is held open if other people are entering. My issue is more the children once in class should be kept in class by staff. Each class has a member of staff or 2 at the class door at entry time and they should be responsible fore the children not leaving the room. The children are also allowed to visit other rooms unattended so often there are children walking about the nursery halls.

Yes I agree Halcy, one of the points I'm going to raise is them having a door monitor at the busy times.

And the whole several instances of children leaving the nursery unattended is surely inexcusable.I am

I can't believe they've been so blasé to post it on Facebook!

Have there been no letters home about it?

What about signs on the wall etc?

Safeguarding issue

Are you in england? Take screenshot of fb message, photograph any notices up, contact ofsted

Worra, yes I have seen it mentioned on newsletters before, asking parents to be vigilent at closing doors latching gates.

I just spoke to head teacher and she said that they felt facebook reached a lot of parents. They are also saying the children that have escaped recently have not been in classrooms they have been with parents at cloakrooms and in one case it was a young sibling of a child. A parent had become distracted while changing her dd's clothes and the sibling had managed to get out the door. Another case was 2 parents chatting in the changing area and child had wandered out.

Feel better but have also asked for a door monitor and she has agreed and there are plans for a new double door system before summer.

boys, I'm in Scotland.

so you were blaming teachers when its actually parents fault their children have been wandering off?

Ah right, care commission if not resolved

Sorry for brevity, on mobile

The only way to do it is to have a member of staff at the door. That's how my nursery used to do it.

paranoid. No I was reading the facebook message and posting my concerns. The message stated several children had escaped from nursery. From what the head teacher is saying it appears to be parents fault, that is not stated in facebook message.

....I still feel the nursery should take a responsibilty and have a door monitor. All the classroom doors are open so there is still an issue of children escaping and I would not be comfortable sending my DD if she had not agreed a door monitor.

I do think that it makes a difference that the children that have escaped have been in the care of parents, rather than teachers, although this could have been made clearer.

I agree IHadADream that the nursery still needs to be taking this as a warning that this could happen with children in their care.It does seem they are keen to take that on board with their plans and agreement to provide a door monitor.
You are best working with them to resolve this as even if you intended to stop sending your child over this issue,other children will still be there and potentially at risk.