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If you don't like 'my mil is an arse threads' look away now...

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cheekyseamonkey · 29/01/2012 19:37

WARNING, long, but trying to avoid drip feeding.

My MIL lives very close by in the same town and for a number of controlling, passive agrgessive and legitimate childcare reasons looks after SIL's kids almost full time outside of school (they are 9 and 11). This applies even when SIL is around but clearly can't be trusted arsed to do it herself and every other weekend (the kids are at their dad's the other weekends).

It is a given that whilst she/they have the kids (again, even if SIL is around and presumably would quite like some time alone with her kids) that MIL won't see DD1 or DH. This is unfortunate as DD1 (2) and her cousins love seeing each other & get on well despite the huge age gap.

She goes on about how she wants to see DD1 more and I have made a variety of attempts to enable this. Early on she wanted to take her away for long periods (3-4 hours at a time, 3 week old baby, breastfed, refused expressed milk from bottles, 6-7 hours at 3 months, same feeding as above) & got very upset when I suggested shorter outings or that I come too. Not sure why. When she does have her she walks around the shops with her strapped in the pushchair (I don't use it with her any more as she walks miles and loves it!) and buys her crap from poundland, doesn't change nappy etc. But I bite my tongue and let her get on. Also won't take her if it's raining, so used to being let down at the last minute anyway.

More recently I've tried to set something up, in discussion with her, that was more regular than the occasional visit, we have toddler activities 3 days a week, but on a Monday are done by 10.15 anyway. Thursday and Fridays are free, despite this, arrangements will start of well then fizzle, due to non shows by her after 2-3 weeks. DH takes a huff (so do I a bit), we don't see her for a while, then I try again, ususally in vain.

I'm a bit fed up now TBH and have been making less effort, believing that if she's that bothered she will take the initiative. After 3 weeks of nothing at all, she e-mailed (yes e-mailed!) to say that she'd come and fetch DD1 on Thursday. I called to explain that whilst this is normally fine, she had a birthday party to go to, would Friday be ok. Flat no. Suggested afternoons after nap (around 3.30) on days when SIL wasn't working, Flat no, had to get kids from school, do dinner, homework etc.

Away at seaside for weekend with SIL and her DCs (which they do nearly every weekend when they have access, at MIL's instigation/expense) so we invited long suffering and quite lovely fil over for dinner. He dropped into conversation that I should watch out as MIL was basically slagging me off to anyone who'd listen saying that I'm controlling and don't want her to see DD1 and that I'm far to strict and DD1's routine means she can't see her. I'm going to come unstuck when DC2 is born (March), let's see what happens, etc. DD is at the age where she won't nap anywhere but cot as it's too exciting, but gets overwrought and sad; not fair on her. Never mind that week before last she wouldn't pop over for an hour to see DD1 as other SIL was down for a visit (for 7 days) even though I offered to make lunch. She'd heard DD cough in the background and couldn't risk SIL's 6 month old baby getting a cold, I asked if just she could come and she laughed (??)

DH tried to address this in the summer with his incessantly calm approach, but she cried and shouted, saying she was too tired to talk about it!

What can I do, I WILL need help with DC2!!!???

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lindy100 · 29/01/2012 19:41

I totally agree that you will need help - but this is not the person who will help you. She will let you down at the last minute, and you will worry the whole time that she is slagging you off to your own dd. Asking her for help will allow her to be in total control i.e. let you down when she feels like it, just for the power trip.

Are there other people who can help you? I have a lovely MIL and FIL, luckily, but also a good support network of other mums, and we help each other out when we need it.

kelly2000 · 29/01/2012 19:45

She will not help you -she either wants full control or will stamp her foot and not help.

YouCanDoItYesYouCan · 29/01/2012 19:48

Why do you need help with DC2? Anyone else available?

I'd say stop letting MIL have control. Why do you keep inviting her and asking her to see your DD? She sounds so awful that surely you want to try and avoid her whenever you can? If she asks to see DD, say yes when it suits you, otherwise leave the ball completely in her court.

How do you feel about it all? Do you like it when DD spends time with MIL?

MeltedChocolate · 29/01/2012 19:48

Are you a WOHM or a SAHM?

mrsmaltesers · 29/01/2012 19:51

Gosh, i didn't realise we are sils .... My ghastly mother is almost exactly the same as yours.

Echoing what the others have said ... She could be your supreme emergency person but I wouldn't want to have her as a reliable source of helping out. I never use my mil for childcare, even when I was in hospital unexpectedly , which is neither here nor there.

Your local homestart might be able to get you a volunteer for 2-3 hours a week if you need some help when have both children etc.

It sounds like your mil will be no bloody help at all. I'd vote with your feet and look elsewhere for support if I were you.

JustHecate · 29/01/2012 19:51

Find someone else to help you, or manage without the help. Many do.

If 'help' comes at such a high price - it's not worth it.

IUseTooMuchKitchenRoll · 29/01/2012 19:51

Is there anyone else that can help you? It shouldn't have to be her, what if she couldn't? Lots of people do manage without GPs around.

Who are the people she would have been talking about you to? Are they people you care about?

I would just carry on as you are tbh. Make the effort when it is convenient for you, and when she wants to see your dd she can ask. You only have to say yes if it suits you.

SuePurblybilt · 29/01/2012 19:56

I'm not understanding why you will need help particularly?

MeltedChocolate · 29/01/2012 19:57

That is why I ask if OP is working or not Sue, if she is a SAHM she definitely shouldn't need help.

Hassled · 29/01/2012 19:57

Why WILL you need help with DC2? Lots of people manage without - I managed with all 4 of mine without any help from family whatsoever (I have none to speak of, DH's parents unwilling). It was hard, but it's doable with fairly set routines - and from your OP, you're good on routines. You'll be fine. Your MIL will go her own way - don't ever make the mistake of relying on her.

cheekyseamonkey · 29/01/2012 20:03

I'm a sahm, my family are 700 miles away, rest of DH's family are 200 mikes away. She's been saying it to her sister, daughter, friends etc so I couldn't care less really, but it was interesting to hear as she's nice as pie, barring passive aggressive comments to my face.

Will prob need help at beginning as likely to have c section, although aiming for vbac. Took a long time to get back on feet after last crash section & had quite bad PND. DH is great but can only have 3 weeks tops & works 50 miles away so can't just pop in for lunch.

I have a great circle of friends, but moral support only as all in similar boat re isolated from families &. 2 or 3 under 3.

Really don't want to cut off my nose to spite my face, but would love to tell her to just fuck off. I grew up believing family was crucial, but was stupid ambitious enough to move away from deadendsville! She just doesn't see that help to sil (fair enough, her own daughter) is unconditional & unquestioned whilst her offers of help are always on her very narrow terms.

Another side issue is that she never just wants to see dd, it has to be a 'favour' to me, even though I think I've coped well considering & have a bright, happy really bloody naughty! dd. Think she likes people to be helpless. I don't want dd to feel she's a chore to nan.

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cheekyseamonkey · 29/01/2012 20:07

Also agree I could cope if no help available, even if butchered again. But cometely ignoring her doesn't appear to be an option given past experience, so coping mechanisms for her attempts at involvement/ accusations or implication of withholding contact to dc appreciated.

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