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AIBU?

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to think there is no such thing as vanity sizing and in fact sizes are now much much smaller than they used to be?

26 replies

AtYourCervix · 24/01/2012 17:36

For example.

I used to be able to go into topshop and fit into clothes. No more.

I used to be a size 10 to 12. Now I'm lucky if I can squeeze into an 18.

I am the same, i am sure.

I believe that actually sizes and much smaller and what was a size 12, 20 years ago is now 5 sizes smaller.

This would also account for slebs being size zero. In my day there was no such size available - Look at 'Pretty Woman', for example, 22 years ago Julia Roberts was a size 6 (American size so Equivelant British size 10). Would she be a size 10 now? Or would the lady in the shop say 'you're a zero right?'

AIU? I think not.

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porcamiseria · 24/01/2012 17:38

no, you are just fatter

ninjasquirrel · 24/01/2012 17:39

Er, size zero being available actually implies sizes have got bigger...

FruitSaladIsNotPudding · 24/01/2012 17:39

Sorry, but I can barely fit into my mother's size 12-14's from the 70s- 80s. I wear a 10 now. An 8 in Next and Marks (I am no way a size 8).

Julia Roberts is very tall. She would be skeletal at size zero, no?

AtYourCervix · 24/01/2012 17:40

i might be a bit.

but my Julia Roberts point is true yes?

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AtYourCervix · 24/01/2012 17:40

shutup fruitsalad. i won't be disuaded.

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FruitSaladIsNotPudding · 24/01/2012 17:41

(shuts up and hides)

AtYourCervix · 24/01/2012 17:41

or am i completely arse backwards?

a six then = a zero now.

does that mean it is bigger or smaller?

i think i might be wrong.

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rshipstuff · 24/01/2012 17:41

size zero is a US size. It's a UK 4.

If you were a US size 10, that would be a UK 12/14.

AtYourCervix · 24/01/2012 17:42

arse.

i am aren't i?

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lesley33 · 24/01/2012 17:43

Yes you are absolutely right! I am really a size 8.

AtYourCervix · 24/01/2012 17:44

m i? i can't work that out. long day. talking bollocks i feel.

anyway.

my clothes used to be size 10 and now they are fucking massive. so therefore i don't believe in vanity sizzing and i think that clothes are ver skimpy now.

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Singingahappytune · 24/01/2012 17:45

My friend found a load of clothes in her parents house that she had worn as as a teenager 30 years ago. She got her size 10 in Top Shop teenage daughter to try the stuff on. All of it was sized 10 or 12. Her daughter couldnt fit into any of it as it was far too small. Sorry OP.

yellowraincoat · 24/01/2012 17:45

But there is no UK size zero. Smallest I've ever seen is a 2.

thepeoplesprincess · 24/01/2012 17:50

Julia Roberts isn't a size zero by any stretch of the imagination.

And more power to her because.

MrsMcEnroe · 24/01/2012 17:52

Well in my case I am exactly the same weight and size (waist & hip measurement) as I was when size 8 was the smallest UK size. These days, new clothes in a size 8 are massive and I have to buy size 6 (or buy even smaller sizes from the Gap website).

So IMVHO and IME YABU!

lurkingaround · 24/01/2012 18:02

Bad news OP but I also think you must have gained weight! Lovely dream tho! Grin

I get your point about the size zero stuff, I don't know how the smaller sizes are made, never having needed them, but I do know I wouldn't have fitted into a 10 a few years ago and now I do (well, top half of me sometimes once got into a 10).

Marilyn Monroe is widely purported to have been a size 16. Certainly doesn't look like what we would call a 16. At a guess I'd say she is modern-day equivalent of 12. 14 at absolute most.

Commiserations on the weight gain.

AtYourCervix · 24/01/2012 18:29

damn.

damn damn damn.

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yomellamoHelly · 24/01/2012 18:33

I have some size 10s from 3 years ago (before last dc). Finally slimmed down enough to buy some size 10 jeans at Christmas, but they're all bigger than the other trousers in my cupboard which I can still barely get into. Same shop.

Boomerwang · 24/01/2012 18:34

When I was a size 16 I fit into a pair of size 12 shorts from New Look and it immediately became my favourite shop :P

Nowadays I'm a size 18 and all clothes stated as that size seem to fit right or a bit smaller...

When I was size 12 I burst into tears when I spilled out of a size 12 bikini and my ex fiance had to console me for a while but now I just shout 'CAN YOU GERRUS A TWENNY I'M TOO FAT FOR THIS!' at my mother/friend/fitting room assistant.

SlinkingOutsideInFrocks · 24/01/2012 18:48

A US size 6 is a UK size 10

A US size 4 is a UK size 8...

A US size 0 is a UK size 4.

Clothing sizes have gradually got bigger and bigger, but some small, very slim people have stayed the same size.

A US size 6/UK size 10 now has bigger measurements than it did, say 20 years ago. So - what are the people that were a size 6/10 meant to do? Drop down a size - to 4/8, that's what.

Sizes 4/8, 2/6 and 0/4 were virtually unheard of 20+ years ago, as the existing sizes were actually small enough to fit very thin, petite people.

But as the measurements gave increased, they've had to add in 'smaller' sizes to accommodate all the same people who naturally haven't increased girth in line with the clothes sizes.

I mean, come on. Grin Human beings as a whole are most definitely not getting skinnier and skinnier and smaller and shorter. In this time of plenty, of processed foods, of huge portions, of fat and sugar and everything we could possibly want PLUS less daily movement and exercise - you cannot possibly believe that humans are evolving into slimmer, leaner versions of our historic and pre-historic selves. It just doesn't make sense.

No, we are getting bigger. Our clothing sizes are getting bigger to reflect this.

They've had to add in smaller sizes (2/6 and 0/4) to accommodate the relatively small number of people whose girth has not increased, and who used to buy clothing sizes 4/8 and 6/10).

bettybat · 24/01/2012 18:55

There is such a thing as vanity sizing - I nearly had a heart attack last year doing a dress making class. I wear a supposed size 8/10 waist. The same inches around me waist equate to nearly a size sixteen in dress making patterns - which apparently have never really changed much through the years.

So yeah - it was pretty traumatic for my friend that wears a size 20 in the shops, bought a size 20 dress pattern and after the horrific measuring of ourselves and using the pattern matrix, realising that actually - no dress pattern would go up to her size and she needed the teacher to create a special pattern on her computer.

It was a hideous eye opener into the extent of vanity sizing.

SlinkingOutsideInFrocks · 24/01/2012 19:00

I am a size 10 (in vanity shops like M&S, Fat Face) / 12 in other shops, and when I bought a vintage dress online in an L, I had to send it back for an XL. :-/

There's a very good reason it's call 'vanity' sizing. Buying XL clothing is not great for the ego...

GetOrfMoiiLand · 24/01/2012 19:02

Funnily enough cervix I have started a thread today saying exactly the opposite. Grin

Julia Roberts in Pretty Woman is a size 6 which is a UK 10.

I think today's 10 is more like a 14.

bettybat · 24/01/2012 19:05

The whole system is a complete mess anyway. A size "10" doesn't many anything from shop to shop anyway - it's not even like all the shops adhere to the same measurements for vanity sizing!

AtYourCervix · 24/01/2012 19:09
Blush

so not only am i completely wrong but it's all already been said today?

i am thick and unoriginal Grin

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