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talhotblond made my blood boil

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padboz · 19/01/2012 09:47

Clearly and without question the woman is a despicable monster. Thats a given.

However, the attitude shown toward her was totally different from that of the man. They both commited for the most part the same crimes - posing as other people, lies deceit cheating etc etc. Her extra one was to be posing as her daughter - vile, his was murder ffs. He was presented as a poor wronged man rather than someone that commited a terrible act in cold blood. And the implication was it was more her fault than his. If she had indeed been the 18 year old she pretended to be there would have been no witch hunt, she would have been an extra in the story not its main purpetrator. I suspect what horrified more than anything was the suggestion that a woman rather than a girl had powerful sexual urges and no self control. The article below sums it up - to read this would suggest that the woman who told despicable lies was more responsible for the murder than the man that pulled the trigger.

www.examiner.com/interpersonal-relationships-in-national/talhotblond-portrait-of-a-mother-from-hell

I hope the woman rots in hell - my point is that the revulsion is all aimed at the woman who pretended to be a younger woman, not the man that pretended to be a younger man and then commited cold blooded murder

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aldiwhore · 19/01/2012 09:51

Dang I missed it. Will watch and get back to you, but the adverts made me think WTF??

Was it on BBC? I need my Iplayer.

YA(probably)NBU.

WorraLiberty · 19/01/2012 09:54

Having just read that, it's quite clear to me that as the story is about the woman, that's why they're talking about the woman.

I'm sure if they did a story on the man who committed the murder, your point would be moot.

monstermissy · 19/01/2012 09:55

I agree, i watched and ranted at the tv - 'but he murdered somebody' it was frustrating and i really felt for her husband and daughter. However another family had lost a son and what for?

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padboz · 19/01/2012 09:57

spike - I was in full on spitting crisps at the telly fury - the implication was that he went and commited this murder 'for nothing' - she wasnt even sexy!!! poor man, poor poor murderous man that went and killed in cold blood over someone that wasn't even tall hot or blonde!! poor man. There should be a law against pretending to be someone good looking. Its so unfair - she wasnt even sexy! Hmm ( then they could have arrested him for that too! ffs. )

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YNK · 19/01/2012 10:01

The two adults who pretended to be teens showed an amazing inability to take responsibility but the whole slant of the programe was about placing the blame on the woman.
Granted she betrayed her daughter on an unimaginable scale but they kept repeating that she had not been charged with any offence. Now I'm not aware of any law against internet trolling, however he was clearly guilty of murder! I'm not sure why she was not charged for covertly taking and publishing photos/video up her daughters skirt and posting to the internet - absoutely vile beyond words - but she did not pull the trigger!
The whole program was slanted toward the evil woman who preyed on others insecurities thereby allowing the murderer to appear justified in an appeal.
The programe convieniently did not reveal the result of this appeal!

maddening · 19/01/2012 10:03

this could happen in any love triangle - whether fantasy or RL - so anyone who has an affair effectively could be her if one of their partners finds out and decides to commit murder - while she is obviously a bit of a dick she isn't responsible for the murderers action....

WorraLiberty · 19/01/2012 10:05

Ahh I see. I didn't realise it was something that was on TV and based my post on what I read in the link.

lovelydogs · 19/01/2012 10:07

It was an infuriating programe all round. What the lady did was a terrible thing but I don't think it deserves prison (the killer said she should be sitting in my position now) And the music was as annoying as hell.

EdithWeston · 19/01/2012 10:09

Not all the coverage is focussed on the woman, though. From the same site as OP, this page barely mentions her. As it is a US story, barely reported here, it's hard to tell which is the "dominant" strand in the coverage (either now, or what will remain when the immediacy has settled down).

Had this happened in the UK, and had she known about or encouraged the attack, then she could be prosecuted for incitement.

DingDongDialsMavislyOnHigh · 19/01/2012 10:11

I knew there would be a thread about this. DP and I were shouting at the T.V, saying exactly the same thing! The program was compelling but we both felt extremely unwell by the end of it. Vile people.

padboz · 19/01/2012 10:13

thats a good article edith - I don't know if you saw the programme but it wasn't anything like that.

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EdithWeston · 19/01/2012 10:16

I didn't see the programme (and because I was called away from the screen and didn't refresh, I hadn't seen the posts about the telly programme when I made my earlier post).

StuckInTheFensAwayFromHome · 19/01/2012 10:16

I thought both were dispicable and I certainly didn't feel like I was being forced down a route where she was worse than him...
More that he's been caught and is serving his time. She has technically done no crime and has the freedom to keep on repeating her horrible behaviour.

I did wonder where the funding has come from for this film. The wierd voice over of the boy that was killed makes me thing its from his parents or rather the groups they are part of and are lobbying for stricter internet controls and new laws to say this behaviour is criminal.

maypole1 · 19/01/2012 10:19

The think I didn't relise until the end is he lied about who he was as well

And to be honest weather the lady lied or not the man was crazed

In one post he said somthing about hoping she got raped by nigge*s
I was like Shocki think people forget posting certain things on line can have real repocussions

I watched opra about a month a go were somone posted a ad to rape his ex on Craig's list

He gave the address, when she would be wearing, exits and entry's to the house sent them keys he had copied

3 people showed up to the girls house at diffrent times and raped her and as she was already tied up form the first guy she couldn't escape or anything she was found a day later when she failed to go into work

porcamiseria · 19/01/2012 10:21

thats fucked up, I did tink the trail.er was wierd

fine murder people!!!! ugh

maypole1 · 19/01/2012 10:22

StuckInTheFensAwayFromHome I thought that as well the voice over was very strange the strangest doctumentry I ever seen

lovelydogs · 19/01/2012 10:22

Oh the actor for the dead man, I just thought that was such a weird style of reporting, talking about himself in the first person even though he was dead. "After my murder T Montgomery carried on blah blah" Very sensationalist, didn't like the style at all.

mewantcookiesmenocanwait · 19/01/2012 10:28

We were screaming at the TV too!

Of course she behaved horribly, and it was weird that she used her daughter's name, rather than creating a completely false identity and just using her pictures, but that's hardly as bad as murder! The murderer was, by his own admission, a very, very damaged man before their 'relationship' ever started, and if it hadn't been this, something else would have set him off.

I particularly hated the 'dead man voiceover', which blamed the woman for the whole thing. It's one thing to accuse someone of inciting murder, but to claim that the victim would blame them, when there's no evidence whatsoever for this, is really not on!

Her husband didn't come out of it well, either. Obviously their marriage was already on the rocks, but he gets to blame everything on her, have the kids utterly on his side and breaking off contact with their mum and generally be terribly smug about it all. The whole thing left a very bad taste.

Blu · 19/01/2012 10:28

My blood was boiling for the very same reason.

They both pretended to be what they were not, and you could, if you wanted, tot up which pretense was worse - actually I think a 47 yo married man lying to reel in someone he believed to be a teenager is pretty sick. He also issued creepy and sinister threats, was a vile racist, an obvious misogyinist with those horrible racist threats of sexual violence. But in the end they both trolled in a highly unpleasant way. I guess that happens LOT, but in the end he was a murderer.

There was no commentator saying how vile he was to match the woman's H spewing vile stuff about her. It was absolutely horrible.

Worra, NO WAY was it about the woman in that way! In fact it was told in such a way to make sympathy flow to the man.

CamperWidow · 19/01/2012 14:31

I would still like to see her get locked up. He had threatened to harm the boy before and did nothing. She is complicite in his crime.