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AIBU?

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To think that reverse AIBUs are sock puppeting in another form?

36 replies

nenevomito · 19/01/2012 08:48

Reverse AIBUs annoy the hell out of me - yes I hide them, but not usually until I've got to the page where the 'big reveal happens'.

They are pointless. All you are getting is one persons idea of what the person they pretend to be is thinking and when you consider that most posters will twist details to suit their POV; that its unlikely that the OP is a mind reader and most people have the emotional intelligence of a cucumber, its bloody unlikely that we'll be getting the full story

There's terms for someone who goes onto internet forums and pretends to be someone else to back up their own story just from their own point of view, its called a sock puppet or a troll.

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SiamoNellaMerda · 19/01/2012 08:49

I agree. Unless and until someone can point out to me what actual benefit there may be from doing one? Would the advice be different? I just don't get it.

OnlyANinja · 19/01/2012 08:50

YAB a bit U

they are quite different to sock puppeting

I agree they are useless for getting the "true" opinion unless you relate only facts (she said this, he did that) and no thoughts/feelings (she is jealous, he is upset).

StrandedBear · 19/01/2012 08:52

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nenevomito · 19/01/2012 08:54

I just don't get it. If you are that certain that you are right, why not just post as yourself from your own POV instead of pretending to be someone else?

But that won't happen as the chances are that if you told the truth from your side it just wouldn't seem so unreasonable at all.

GRRR

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2rebecca · 19/01/2012 08:59

I hate them and they are usually obvious because the first post sounds very unreasonable because it is put forward by someone who can't see the reasons for doing things that way so argues with no conviction. Genuine AIBUs create more discussion from both sides.
Goes off to look at yacht thread, I avoided it as it seemed too remote from life as I know it.

ExitPursuedByaBear · 19/01/2012 09:04

I don't think I have read one.

But then I often miss the point.

2rebecca · 19/01/2012 09:07

Read yacht thread, it seems totally pointless, I don't believe the bloke did it to genuinely get the views of other women as he didn't go into stuff like the swimming ability of the kids and whether any other competent adult would be on the boat so if a kid fell in one could control the boat and child on boat whilst the other fished the kid out, which is the sort of practical stuff his wife would really worry about.
He just posted 1 side and got lots of unsurprising YABUs until folk spotted the fishiness.

sausagesandmarmelade · 19/01/2012 09:24

Unless you have absolute concrete proof that people are doing this sort of thing...you should probably keep quiet.

If you do have proof...then take it to the moderators..or whoever runs the forum.

aldiwhore · 19/01/2012 09:26

I don't mind it. Sometimes it indicates that at least the poster is attempting to see things from a different perspective. Mostly though they're loaded AIBU's.

I can understand people's need not to out their gender sometimes as a lot of the time responses are skewed once gender is known (or sexuality).

Like all AIBU's it depends on the particular thread.

Sevenfold · 19/01/2012 09:29

yanbu

Whatmeworry · 19/01/2012 09:32

Sock puppetry is having multiple idfentities all sitting on a thread with the same view to make it look like that is a dominant pov.

Taking a reverse pov is quite instructive IMO, and the way the yachting one's tone changed when (shock horror) it turned out to be a Man who was writing is IMO very revealing. .

sausagesandmarmelade · 19/01/2012 09:33

I think some people have way too much time on their hands!

GetOrfMoiiLand · 19/01/2012 09:38

I loathe reverse AIBUs, I think they are manipulative.

I wouldn't call it sock puppetting, though.

mothmagnet · 19/01/2012 09:41

I don't think it's trolling or particularly wrong if they need an opinion, only after reading the yacht thread, I'm left with the underlying feeling that the OP is dishonest.

Yes what, I did feel more sympathetic reading him as a woman than a man, it is revealing. The way the story was told though, was written to lead us to a particular conclusion, how do we know what omissions there were to the situation?
Much like any aibu I guess - it's up to us to reply as we feel.

OnlyANinja · 19/01/2012 09:49

Not everything that you dislike can be called trolling.

It's just a thing that you don't like.

HTH

2rebecca · 19/01/2012 10:05

I agree it's neither sock puppetry or trolling, which are distinct from each other and not the same thing as the op suggests.

SecretMinceRinser · 19/01/2012 10:06

I think they are pointless and manipulative but not sure about sock puppeting.
Does anyone else think that some 'reverse' AIBU's aren't actually reverse at all? Sometimes I think the OP gets such a pasting and so many people saying 'I hope this is a reverse AIBU otherwise you're a selfish bitch' etc that they come back on and say it was to shut everyone up.

CamberwickGreen · 19/01/2012 10:20

gawd blimey, how many more rules do you want

surely we are all adults, we can decide for ourselves if we want to read a post, comment on it, call someone a fake, talk about another thread. Stop trying to regulate something that doesnt need to be regulated

DeWe · 19/01/2012 10:23

I think there is a place for them.
Sometimes I see an AIBU where the Op is showing a senario which is very clearly very unreasonable. I look at it, and wonder how it would sound from the other side. Sometimes when I've looked at it from the other side, I can see how from the other perspective (neither necessarily being wrong) the OP is UR.

I think when there are reverse AIBU it is someone trying to see if, even from the other person's perspective ie not having just given their own side, it is still classed as UR.

nenevomito · 19/01/2012 10:25

Nope Camberwick, never said I wanted it regulated, just that I think they're bloody annoying.

Ninja - well obviosusly. I don't like bacon, but I've never called that a troll. However pretending to be someone you're not on the internet can be.

HTH

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Maryz · 19/01/2012 10:25

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nenevomito · 19/01/2012 10:26

Happy to change stance to "Pointless and Manipulating" though. Grin

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nenevomito · 19/01/2012 10:28

I think they annoy me Maryz as you are only getting what the OP thinks the other person is thinking, so you're not saying a real person is being unreasonable, IYSWIM.

When someone posts as themselves, you get a fuller picture of the situation.

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SecretMinceRinser · 19/01/2012 10:29

But DeWe you never see one where everyone has said yabu and they've come back on and said 'it was a reverse actually but thankyou for making me see the error of my ways'. The op is always going to be biased in favour of whoever is posting whether they are posting as themselves or not.

Maryz · 19/01/2012 10:32

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