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to ask my son's after school club to stay open until 6pm?

137 replies

squareheadcut · 18/01/2012 22:59

My son started at a new primary school from an old one and maybe i'm spoiled from his last school, but the after school club here finishes at 5.30pm and I am thinking that I will write a letter to ask them to stay open until 6pm because it's impossible to get back in time if you finish work at 5pm, as many working parents do. I've spoken to a lot of parents at the school who seem to heartily agree with me.

But then I think, school is not childcare and they should be encouraging you to work less as it is better for the kids if they are not at school so long, but many people, me included would love to live in a world where i didn't have to work until 5pm, but that's just how society is right or wrong i have to live with it ...
what do you think, should i write a letter with a gathering of parents signatures? or just bite it and juggle and leave early and beg other parents as I seem to be doing right now .. aibu to expect the school to accommodate working parents in this way?

OP posts:
LineRunner · 19/01/2012 11:05

My DCs attended various after school clubs when they were younger and each club provided a 'light tea' (we loved the name!), such as something on toast, or a sandwich, with fruit and a drink. The children used to help prepare the fruit.

I think some people are being a bit silly, here.

NeldaAufwader · 19/01/2012 11:06

Tax credits? Not everybody is in receipt of those you know. I'm not, and no, I'm not earning megabucks either.
OP there's no harm in trying, my 'poor' dc loves her aftercare and holiday clubs and it's a good job as I have no other option than for her to go there.
The WOHM bashers need to get in the real world.

LineRunner · 19/01/2012 11:07

There are some posters today, Nelda, who seem to be bashing everyone and everything (except themselves).

PattiMayor · 19/01/2012 11:08

maypole - you are coming across as astoundingly ignorant on this thread. Not to mention barely literate.

And my DS's reaction to being told that he's going to after school club is 'YES!' and he moans if I come and collect him before six. So it's clearly not a traumatic experience for him. I'm sorry that doesn't fit in with your judgemental view. FWIW, he also hated to going to a CM because the children were so much younger than him that it was 'boring'.

NorthernWreck · 19/01/2012 11:13

A couple of things:

Firstly I get mighty sick of people saying " school is not childcare".
I have a teacher friend who says this a lot.
Actually, it kind of is.

Schools for kids of non-rich people only exist in the first place because after laws were brought in to protect children from having to go to work in the factories with their parents, they had to go somewhere.
That is why the government of the time brought in universial education free schooling for all children.
So that the children of workers were literally kept off the streets.

So. If the world as it is demands that we need to go somewhere to work, in order to live,we need schools to provide the childcare to do this.

some of us have "jobs" rather than "careers" and those jobs have the working hours they have, You can't usually "just ask to leave early".

In the current economic climate any job is hard to come by, so it is not reasonable for a working parent to be picky about what job they take.

Also, most of us have to work. Its not a choice.
All very well for my teacher friend and her public sector working husband who has flexible hours to say that school is not childcare.
There are two of them. She works only in term time. He can arrange his hours to do school pick ups.

Lastly, something has got to be done about public transport, because the awfulness of our buses is the reason I could not possible work beyond 5 pm, even though our after school club goes until six.

OP-get together with other parents who want the same thing and ask-they can only say no.

NeldaAufwader · 19/01/2012 11:14

Yep Linerunner, in fact I am annoyed with myself for becoming annoyed as I reckon those people are probably on the wind-up.

I hope they are anyway. I'd hate to think they were so outwardly disrespectful of people's choices in real life.

NorthernWreck · 19/01/2012 11:15

Oh yeah, also:
Some kids go to boarding school. Some kids get left in far away countries with their grandparents because their parents have moved to find work.
Some kids are in geurilla armies at 10.
Going to after school club a few days a week is not going to traumatise children!

Portofino · 19/01/2012 11:19

My dd complains if I come collect her too early as she is having fun playing with her friends. The poor neglected flower.

LineRunner · 19/01/2012 11:19

Good point about boarding school. I actually think my DCs got a better 'light tea' at afterschool club than the boarders ever did at my posh public school - for them it was bread and jam at 4pm every day, and then prep, and then a strange supper of soup-based something.

LingDiLong · 19/01/2012 11:19

WTF maypole? £50 a week is a LOT, £200 a month that is. I can absolutely see that would be make or break for some families. In fact that is exactly how much extra we need on top of my DH's income in order to be able to do essential things like, you know, feed and clothe the kids.

NorthernWreck · 19/01/2012 11:21

Our weekly budget is £50 a week. That is what we live on after rent and bills.

sunshineandbooks · 19/01/2012 11:21

The government is actually quite clear that school is, in part, childcare - hence the demand that single parents start looking for work once their child is in school.

Morloth · 19/01/2012 11:22

I know I feel deeply sorry for my poor DC a lot.

I mean, really the way they are treated is appalling especially when compared to how most children on the planet are treated!

Oh wait, no, hang on...

I don't even work because I have to, I do it because I like it. Wink

brass · 19/01/2012 11:22

some of us have "jobs" rather than "careers" and those jobs have the working hours they have, You can't usually "just ask to leave early".

that's the crux of the problem isn't it? The workplace isn't a uniform entity. We all have to deflect different pressures from different angles and we all need our children to be looked after while we try to achieve this.

Let's try to be supportive of one another shall we?

NorthernWreck · 19/01/2012 11:23

But really maypole is to be ignored.

I dont actually think s/he is a real person.

More likely a computer generated virus that spews out inflammatory rubbish with no punctuation.

LineRunner · 19/01/2012 11:24

I'm impressed with anyone who manages to translate maypolish.

LingDiLong · 19/01/2012 11:26

Well said brass. I've never understood the argument 'I manage to finish early so everyone else should'. Employers only have to consider their employee's request to work part-time/reduced hours, there's no obligation for them to allow it.

NorthernWreck · 19/01/2012 11:28

It was meeeee LingdiLong meeeeee!

brass · 19/01/2012 11:28

LOL and now imagine your boss is as flexible and understanding as maypole

DollyBantry · 19/01/2012 11:30

"Get a childminder". Because it's that bloody easy ...
Yeeeesh. Stop bashing working mums. Life is not black and white, this world is not perfect and bills have to be paid. Going out to work is not a selfish choice, it's possibly the most unselfish thing you can do as a Mum. You do it to provide for your kids, to keep them warm and fed and clothed.

LingDiLong · 19/01/2012 11:31

yes, yes NorthernWreck you said a very clever thing too. Good girl!

LineRunner · 19/01/2012 11:34

And Sunshine is absolutely right that it is government policy to regard school hours as being a form of childcare in the sense of children-being-taken-care-of, hence the compulsion that lone parents of school-aged children find jobs. And also hence the requirement for schools to offer extended services.

CamberwickGreen · 19/01/2012 11:38

lol at all the justifications that their kids just lurvvvvvvve staying in school from early morning till late.

No way would I enjoy staying at work from 8 till gone 6. Its very tiring even for an adult.

DoesNotGiveAFig · 19/01/2012 11:40

YANBU.

NeldaAufwader · 19/01/2012 11:40

Maypole the DailyMailBot, in a managerial position?

Grin
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