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To have cried at Sherlock...

30 replies

startwig1982 · 15/01/2012 23:02

...and then be puzzled by it? Also, why, oh why is it the last series? Sad

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NearlyMrsCustardsHardHat · 15/01/2012 23:03

It's not the last series.

At least Mark Gatiss has confirmed on Twitter there is to be another :o

startwig1982 · 15/01/2012 23:03

[phew] Grin

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Lauzifer · 15/01/2012 23:04

I cried my eyes out too Blush there will be another series (fingers crossed) just not for a long while.

NeverKnowinglyUnderstood · 15/01/2012 23:04

not the last Grin he landed in the bin van... have rewound it and checked definate reason for bin van and cyclist.

startwig1982 · 15/01/2012 23:05

Aaaah, you're so clever!!!

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NearlyMrsCustardsHardHat · 15/01/2012 23:06

Third series was commissioned at the same time as this one :o rest easy :o

CailinDana · 15/01/2012 23:06

The guy who plays Watson was amazing (sorry don't know his name), I'm tearing up now thinking of his reaction to Sherlock's death Blush Best acting I've seen in a long time.

BitchyHen · 15/01/2012 23:11

YANBU DD and I cried too.

Punkatheart · 15/01/2012 23:30

You need to read the books......all will be very much clearer....

treas · 16/01/2012 00:21

Was the cyclist Molly?

Jackin · 16/01/2012 07:36

I think the cyclist was a bloke, didn't moriaty (sp) survive reichenbach falls as well? in the books?

gamerwidow · 16/01/2012 07:45

I think Molly will have been used to falsely verify that Holmes was dead and she would have been in the nursing team on the ground.

cheeseycharlie · 16/01/2012 07:56

It really was amazing, and the acting at the graveside choked me up to, but if you listen to the dialogue I think it sounds actually like Watson and the landlady know that Sherlock is alive and well somewhere and they just want him to come back.
Will be re-watching to check out the bin van theory neverknowinglyunderstood thank you for that!
Slightly annoying though as they are clearly lining it up for both Sherlock and moriarty to come back, but moriarty's death was pretty conclusive, and the body on the ground after sherlock's jump was dressed in the correct scarf and accessories (yes I rewound and checked), so I won't be happy unless they come up with some pretty convincing explanations for that lot.

Mint just have to read the books as cannot wait a whole year for the next series to find out!!

Ohh Benedict - many [fwoar] emoticons needed

CaveMum · 16/01/2012 08:05

Sorry to rain on your parade Cheesy, but it's likely to be more like 2 years before we get another Sherlock: both the delicious Benedict Cumberbatch and Martin Freeman are filming The Hobbit in New Zealand for pretty much the rest of this year and then BC is off to do the new Star Trek in 2013. I can't see them having a third series ready before late 2013 [sobs and wails]

Northernlurker · 16/01/2012 08:06

I suspect Molly got a body out of the morgue for him. The bin van was definately where he landed. The point of the final problem book is that Moriaty only wanted to revenge himself on Sherlock - and perished in the event. Sherlock wriggles out of it literally. Originally Conan-Doyle intended to kill him off but public protest persuaded him to bring him back. Sherlock was still pursued by Moriaty's henchpersons though........

CaveMum · 16/01/2012 08:13

I agree with Northern. Molly is the key, Moriarty hadn't even remembered her - strange when you think he "dated" her for 3 weeks!
She'll have sorted out a lookalike body, nipped round to Sherlock's flat (posing as a forensics bod), taken some of his clothes to dress the body and popped it in the bin ready to be tossed out as Sherlock jumped.

Twitter ponderings indicate people think that the cyclist who knocked John over also sprayed him with the Baskerville chemical agent - making him see what he feared and expected, a dead Sherlock.

I'm over thinking this WAY too much!!!!

diddl · 16/01/2012 08:28

"didn't moriaty (sp) survive reichenbach falls as well? in the books?"

IIRC, his body was never found, but he was never in any of the books again.

But I think that after he fell he was described as hitting some rocks as he was carried along(?)

ragingmull · 16/01/2012 08:38

You need to read "The Final Problem" then the "Return of Sherlock Holmes".

YANBU for crying, I was sobbing like a baby as was DH. Martin Freeman was amazing, he plays Watson so well. It makes me Angry that with all the shit that is on TV, this only runs for 3 episodes once a year!

It's pretty obvious what happened, Sherlock arranging things with Molly (aaaw!), telling Watson to watch him the whole time but then him getting hit by that bike just as he hits the ground.

Oh God it was so good!

OnlyANinja · 16/01/2012 08:44

Whole massive thread over here where you can chat with lots of other Sherlock fans.

WheresTheCat · 16/01/2012 08:44

I am such a thicky - can someone explain how we saw his body then if he wasn't dead. . . Confused

CaveMum · 16/01/2012 11:33

Whetesthecat the key is we don't know it was Shetlock's body. Yes it looked a bit like him and was wearing the same clothes but was it really him? There was severe head trauma so not easy to recognise the face and add to this the probability that Moriarty used a Sherlock mask when kidnapping the children is it implausible that they didn't put another mask on a different body to look like Sherlock?

Watson never really got close enough to the body and he had just received a blow to the head so could he be 100% confident that it really was Sherlock?

ChitChatInChaos · 16/01/2012 11:46

In the original, doesn't Mycroft know that Sherlock isn't dead as well? Between Molly and Mycroft they could easily help Sherlock come up with something. In the brains department it would be Sherlock, Moriarty then Mycroft, I would say!

LadyClariceCannockMonty · 17/01/2012 13:27

No, YANBU to have cried ? I did too. It was very emotional, largely thanks to Martin Freeman's outstanding performance. He is always great but he surpassed himself in this episode.

Re the body, I think it was Sherlock's and Molly provided blood and possibly blood-and-gore make-up. John was knocked over by the cyclist to give Sherlock time to climb out of the truck, arrange himself on the floor and administer the fake blood. John's hand was firmly stopped and moved away as he tried to take a pulse (the director made sure that we saw that moment clearly).

snuffaluffagus · 17/01/2012 16:02

Don't forget Sherlock's "homeless network".. useful to have a rent a bike/crowd..

LadyClariceCannockMonty · 17/01/2012 16:13

Yes, I think the network were involved too. The script carefully planted a reference to them. I think there was mention made of the network in either Scandal or Hounds as well, but for the life of me I can't remember which one or what the reference actually was.

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