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to have this opinion about stereotypical WAGS?

48 replies

NearlyMrsCustardsHardHat · 14/01/2012 15:24

Is it bad to view WAGS (the ones with orange skin, anorexic figures and bleach blonde hair) are little more than high class escorts/prostitutes?

AIBU?

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OnlyANinja · 14/01/2012 15:30

You are defining what the stereotype is, so nobody can answer that.

If anyone says "no" then you will say "but they (the stereotypical ones I am talking about) do X, Y, and Z"

NearlyMrsCustardsHardHat · 14/01/2012 15:31

If i didn't define the stereotype then people would whinge complain that I hadn't fully explained myself in the OP, wouldn't they?

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JustHecate · 14/01/2012 15:32

I get where you are coming from, I suppose it could be argued that they are exchanging themselves (with bodies that they prepare to the required standard) in exchange for a certain lifestyle. That could be argued to be 'prostituting' yourself, I suppose. If you take the "to use yourself or your abilities or beliefs in a way which does not deserve respect, especially in order to get money" definition and you decide that their choices are undeserving of respect. erm. iyswim Grin

I just feel that it is very sad that a human being would choose to become a 'WAG' and therefore be defined by their relationship to someone else, rather than making something of themselves as someone in their own right. iyswim.

I am the Wife/Girlfriend of X. That is my identity. I think that's a waste of a person.

But - that's their choice. That's the life they want to have, for whatever reason. Who has the right to tell them that they should not make that choice, regardless whether or not you agree with it?

I wish they didn't want to make that choice, but I defend their right to make it.

HowlingBitch · 14/01/2012 15:34

Women who bleach their hair and wear fake tan are capable of loving a man just as much as anyone else imo.

OnlyANinja · 14/01/2012 15:34

But you haven't yet defined the stereotype - you've only described their appearance, whereas "equivalent to prostitutes" is related to behaviour, not appearance.

NearlyMrsCustardsHardHat · 14/01/2012 15:35

onlyaninja ok yes you make a fair point; to expand the stereotype further - the ones who see it as a career option, hang around clubs with the sole intention of 'bagging a footballer' or similar and have little other ambition in life.

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LeBOF · 14/01/2012 15:37

I feel sorry for most of them. Poor Colleen Rooney- it must be like shagging a chimpanzee.

HowlingBitch · 14/01/2012 15:37

Thanks for elaborating, In that case YANBU.

ComposHat · 14/01/2012 15:38

Because they dress in a way you disapprove of and have a footballer for a boyfriend/husband, you equate that to prostitution?

To link personal appearance to behaviour in such a crude way is a small step away from idiotic comments about women 'asking' to be raped based on what they are wearing.

YABVU and a bit of an idiot.

norriscoleforpm · 14/01/2012 15:39

I would leave out the 'high class' bit myself..

SensitivityChip · 14/01/2012 15:43

I'm a size 8, sometimes have highlights and wear fake tan. I'm also married although not to a footballer. Categorically not a prostitute. HTH. Grin

HowlingBitch · 14/01/2012 15:45

Sorry, But if I had a daughter and her only ambition in life was to actively peruse and famous sports person and marry him for the sake of a certain life style I would lock her in a room for a few years and force her to read nothing but the MN feminism section.

Eurgh.

SensitivityChip · 14/01/2012 15:48

I don't follow celebrity gossip etc but from what I can't help but hear, a lot of these women live horrible lives with cheating husbands. Hardly aspirational.

catgirl1976 · 14/01/2012 15:48

do you mean

"people who enter in to relationships soley for financial gain are little more than prostitutes"?

i think that's what you a really refering to, but this has no link to appearance and can happen in all age ranges, social classes etc

NearlyMrsCustardsHardHat · 14/01/2012 15:49

Yet so many girls aspire to have that life. They just see the 'fame' and the 'fortune' and it blinds them

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NearlyMrsCustardsHardHat · 14/01/2012 15:49

catgirl fair point

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StealthPenguin · 14/01/2012 16:02

I think you're bang on. It's the equivalent of thinking "when I grow up I'm going to be a stripper!" or "my ambition is to be just like Katie Price!".

Does no-one have a dream that isn't centered on flashing your tits, fucking everyone in sight or having a fugly footie player rutting all over in exchange for a sports car?!

StealthPenguin · 14/01/2012 16:03

all over you*

NearlyMrsCustardsHardHat · 14/01/2012 16:05

When did it become ok to aspire to be like that? Or rather when did we (society) begin to tolerate it?

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SensitivityChip · 14/01/2012 16:20

It has always gone on though, hasnt it, just without the love affair with the meeja. Footballers have become the new rock stars due to the vast amounts of money thrown at them. A woman could make more money as the wife of a professional footballer than she could by becoming one herself. Sad

StealthPenguin · 14/01/2012 16:24

It's a disgusting, outdated way of ensuring your future. If women genuinely feel like this, then they should fuck off back to the 1700's. You'd marry into a good family, churn out some kids and spend your days becoming more "accomplished" in writing, sewing and the art of conversation. Hmm

And I'm not even a hardcore feminist! It just pisses me off that women think they'll bag a rich bloke and be happy forever and ever.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 14/01/2012 16:34

I don't think much of the men that choose women with no aspiration other than to become an extension of their partner either.

SensitivityChip · 14/01/2012 16:39

I can't claim to know a huge amount about any of them personally but a lot of football players seem like overpaid, over-entitled idiots and I suspect life with a man like that after a few years of marriage would be pretty fecking grim no matter what it says in the magazines and you'd have to be naive to think otherwise.

BUT I know people (of both sexes although only one is a man) who have married successful people and given up work, some to take care of children, others just because. Is it really that much different? Some people (men included) look for a partner who can support them and they find that attractive. Materialistic in some cases yes but I wouldn't say it was akin to prostitution.

ComposHat · 14/01/2012 17:25

But if I had a daughter and her only ambition in life was to actively peruse and famous sports person and marry him for the sake of a certain life style I would lock her in a room for a few years

How do you know that is all these women aspire to? Or is it just a case of looking at a picture of them and assuming 'they must be a selfish, empty headed bimbo who is only with her boyfriend/husband for the money' ?

Or what about women like this who happen to be married to top-level footballers. Most of them blonde, thin and may not be adverse to a bit of fake tan:

www.birminghammail.net/news/top-stories/2011/04/02/birmingham-wags-conquer-the-great-wall-of-china-97319-28444054/

Would you make the same sort of judgements about a woman married to a successful businessman?

crypes · 14/01/2012 17:33

But these footballers have a formula for the perfect woman for them (blonde/brunette hair extensions, spray tan, size 8 ), Its boring but it obviously works (in snaring a footballer), intelligence praps doesnt come into it much. The only thing is footballers like young nubile women and one day the likes of Abbey clancey,Mrs Lineker, Christine Blakely, et al will hit 50 and hit the menopause.