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To be angry about what's happening to the health service

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Mostlymum · 04/01/2012 19:52

The breast implant fiasco is a timely reminder of the what might flow from a health and social care bill that's been created with the aim of privatising health care.

One way or the other the NHS will have to pick up the costs of putting right the costly mistakes of breast implants. Yet they were put in by the private sector who charged their fee and now cannot even be traced to foot the bill for clearing up the mess.

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AnyoneforTurps · 04/01/2012 20:23

YANBU. Pity some of the posters on this thread don't seem to have made the connection between private sector "efficiency" and their tendency to dump everything on the NHS www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/1376158-to-be-gobsmacked-by-the-efficiency-of-private-healthcare

nativitywreck · 04/01/2012 20:35

I have lived in a country with only private medical care, and if more people knew the reality of that, they would be on the streets about this. Wouldn't they??
I think maybe it's quite complicated to understand (I don't completely get all of it) so people just ignore what the government are doing.

tigana · 04/01/2012 20:37

yanbu, but IABbiased :D (nhs employee...)

animula · 04/01/2012 20:40

yanbu.

Mostlymum · 04/01/2012 21:09

Hey thanks nativitywreck ( was it that bad!!?;0) ) That's just my point really. I thinks it's being made so complex that few really understand what the net result will be.
If the bill is passed - as is - we will all be having to buy health insurance on top of what we pay, and prescription charges will be a distant PLEASANT memory.

Forget the choccy bics! We should be out on the street. Just a few days ago I heard that hospitals will no longer be capped at only spending 2% of their time on private practice, they can spend something like 49% of it. So all well and good if you can afford it, but with waiting lists full to busting we will be in the same position as the lady on the other forum who is going to be paying somewhere in the region of £4000 to get her knees fixed, as she points out she can afford it. But what if you can't? And of course if hospitals have to generate a profit - or even just the funds to run themselves then non- paying patients are always going to get a raw deal.

I have lived where you pay for health service. You spend a lot of time keeping your fingers crossed, you hope to goodness your children don't fall ill and you wish you had the NHS - however flawed it may seem.

Have we forgotten that American guys documentary about the health service in America, that's what we will get if we don't start to tell our MPs etc what we think.

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nativitywreck · 04/01/2012 21:31

Well it wasn't too bad for me, but most people didn't have any health insurance and just had to hope they didn't get sick, because illness= loss of job=destitution + massive medical bills they couldn't pay.

God it just terrifies me. My dad died in hospital a couple of years ago and the care on the wards was sketchy at best.
He wouldn't have died if he hadn't caught pneumonia in hospital
Hospitals are crumbling, doctors are thin on the ground and cleaners seem to be non-existant.
Thant was then so if they get away with this frankly evil bill think how much worse it will be.
This is the thing-you can't make healthcare into a profit making enterprise. People will die as a direct result.
It is totally immoral and will exacerbate the widening gap between haves and have nots like nothing else.

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