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To ask my mother to help me financially to have my PIP implants removed?

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RainbowSheep · 26/12/2011 19:11

I had breast implants 8 years ago. Since then DH and I have suffered badly with the recession and lost our house. We are working hard to get back on track but finding it a real struggle. I found out last week that the implants I had were infact PIP implants and I'm worried but can't afford to have them removed. My mum is very well off but hasn't offered to help financially, aibu to ask?

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KurriKurri · 27/12/2011 14:58

Fabby - you don't know the reasons why the OP wanted bigger breasts, - there are many physical and psychological reasons why people have cosmetic surgery.

Some people who have had these implants are women who have had breasts removed after cancer, - should they just suck it up because they 'chose' to have a reconstruction.

The company making this product have stated it is faulty. People who had this procedure done in good faith are now being expected to foot the bill themselves. In my opinion when the medical profession or associated companies cock up, they pay. They do not leave people to worry they have something potentially dangerous in their body.

OP - I wish you luck - would come right out and ask your mother, she may at least be prepared to loan it to you until such time as you can afford to repay her.

catsareevil · 27/12/2011 15:07

I thought that the French government were covering some of the costs associated with this problem?

kylietokaren · 27/12/2011 15:25

I had a breast augmentation 12 years ago. The reason I had it was that I previously had quite large breasts, but then 3 years of breastfeeding shrank them to nothing. They were just deflated sacks of skin. There was no breast tissue in them at all, they just hung down. Revolting. Really.

So I had them 'filled up' again. I was no longer in a relationship, and had no intention of ever being again, but I wanted to feel like the old me. I didn't want to look down and see these things hanging down forever.

I loved my new breasts and have not regretted it for a second. As a feminist, I see it as my right to look and feel attractive and to do what the bloody hell I like with my body.

So Fabby - fuck off. Sorry for the language everyone, but I just hate that kind of attitude.

mrsjay · 27/12/2011 17:15

I think as somebody else suggested go to your surgeon and ask about getting them removed cost dangers etc , and ask your mum or at least speak to her about loaning you the money to have them removed /

SuePurblybiltbyElves · 27/12/2011 17:28

Fabby, you are a puzzle. There you are, on every second thread, saying that children come first and that you'd do/you do anything for yours. Does this not extend to helping with medical bills? Had the OP been from the mother's point of view, I wonder if we would have seen a different answer.

fallon8 · 27/12/2011 17:30

Why did you have them out in? Cosmetic/ health reasons?

fallon8 · 27/12/2011 17:34

Im with you on this one.....Due to BC...i had one implant,not this one, which became infected and was removed...The other breast came from reconstructed muscle/tissue from my stomach,it has been fine.Again due to BC...so i look at it from a different angle....if you were daft enough to pay for them to be put in, you pay for them to be taken out, especially when the NHS is so cash strapped,you could be taking funding from something really necessary.

Driftwood999 · 27/12/2011 17:53

kylietokaren - Truly sorry that you were revolted by your body. I'm taking issue with you bringing feminism into this. I think you are confusing that term with sexuality. I would have thought that any self respecting feminist would accecpt her changing body shape, and even be proud of it. Or are you ageist?

LydiaWickham · 27/12/2011 18:41

I don't think it matters why the OP had them done, the fact is she has, and now there is a new risk that was not in anyway one that she could have expected at the time and therefore not a risk she should have considered in advance.

She's now in the situation of not being able to go back to the clinic she had them done at and getting conflicting advice.

OP - talk to your mum and if asking for a gift of the money seems too embarrassing for you, could you ask for a soft loan? Although I do think the first port of call might be sucking up the cost of a private appointment to have them checked.

sleeplessinseatle · 27/12/2011 19:30

fallon8, you have fallen for fabbychic's usual trick of pretending the OP said something she hadn't.

OP has never once suggested she expects the nhs to pay to rectify the fact that a negligent and fraudulent company made her implants out of a silicone material meant to make mattresses (on beds), rather than medical silicone.

MmeLindor. · 27/12/2011 20:59

Fallon
Removing a n implant that may potentially cause cancer is not necessary? Would you then suggest that if the OP left them in and did indeed find that they had caused cancer that she should not have cancer treatment on the NHS because she brought it on herself?

The whole discussion of why the women had the implants is secondary.

First the issue is that a company knowingly used sub-standard silicone in order to make more money and in doing so risked the health of thousands of women. Not that I expect them to cover the costs of the operations needed to remove the implants. (of course they should, but there is no way they could)

Second the OP Did not say that she wanted the implants replaced on the NHS, but was thinking about asking her mum.

LydiaWickham · 27/12/2011 21:02

To be honest, if there is a chance these implants could cause cancer, it would be a hell of a lot cheaper for the NHS to get them out now, rather than pay for the cancer treatment later on. (Esp if the NHS could claim back the costs from the manufacturer/insurance company of the manufacturer)

But the OP doesn't want the NHS to remove them, she wants to ask her mum.

fallon8 · 27/12/2011 21:51

Mme lindor..its simple,,you pay to have them put in, you pay to have them removed,,why does the NHS need to get involved?

Robotindisguise · 27/12/2011 22:03

The OP never suggested for a second the NHS should be involved. Shall we stay on topic?

Rainbow - I would ask for a long term loan. Explain it may be some time before you can pay back, but promise you will.

springboksaplenty · 27/12/2011 22:07

No it wouldn't be cost effective to have them removed (and presumably replaced) on the NHS. It is a (theoretical) risk of increased cancer incidence. The number needed to treat to stop one case of cancer would be in the hundreds (if not thousands). It would probably work out a heck of a lot cheaper just to treat that one additional cancer - and the fact that this link isn't proven means that you couldn't be sure that one case wouldn't occur anyway.

So no. I certainly don't think the NHS should cover the cost of removing implants that haven't leaked. OP speak to your GP, discuss with him/her the exact advice being given by the British plastic surgeons college.

olgaga · 27/12/2011 22:30

I think you're jumping the gun a little asking your mum for money now. Why don't you just go to your GP and discuss it? They can refer you to the local breast implant expert, and if they recommend a private scan, and implant removal, you might discuss your need for funding from your mum.

Bear in mind that unless you are experiencing symptoms then the implants are likely to be fine.

BabiesLondon · 31/12/2011 12:29

I had PIP implants over 6 years ago. I had them removed in Feb of this year, not because of this scare but just because I had never been comfortable with having implants (they were quite big 330cc). Anyway I wanted to let you know that I asked to be given my old implants, and they are in perfect condition, no rupture nothing as new! I just thought it might help put your mind at rest a little. If you do decide to have them removed dont let surgeons at such as Harley Medi Group, My Breast, the Hospital Group and the rest pressure you to have them replaced, it is far more expensive. They did me, and scared me to death telling me i'd be disfigured, and what do you know, once id had the removal my boobs looked exactly as they did before the surgery. small and pert! - Absolutely no saggy skin.
So don't worry, they will most likely be fine for years more to come, but if you do decided to get them removed/replaced, don't be pressured into the more expensive replacement route. If you need the name of an excellent surgeon, known for removal/replacement, then let me know.

JodieStantonFisher · 23/04/2014 16:34

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FunnyFoot · 23/04/2014 16:41

Piss off Jodie and stop unearthing Zombie threads

WowserBowser · 23/04/2014 16:43

Fuck off Jodes

Catflap1 · 23/04/2014 16:50

Why would you pay??? My friend just recently had hers replaced like or like free of charge because she had pips!

Emmaroos · 23/04/2014 17:26

YANBU to ask if you believe your health is at risk (although if it were, then the NHS would do it), but it would be unreasonable to feel entitled or to be upset or to ask her to justify a refusal if she says no.
All implants have a limited life expectancy so having them without planning for their replacement in the future was irresponsible, and it was your choice, not your Mum's. I don't think I would ask in your position.
Assuming you had a safe childhood and an education then she owes you nothing. She may have many reasons for not feeling that she has the cash to give away, not least of which might be ensuring she is not a burden on you as she gets older. If she does offer to help you financially then I would be very, very grateful and pay her back ASAP.

maras2 · 23/04/2014 18:47

Who payed for them in the first place? Whatever , if you were my daughter I'd pay for the removal and probably the new ones but would want some effort from you to put towards it.

Perfectlypurple · 23/04/2014 18:50

This a a zombie thread that someone resurrected to advertise

WhereYouLeftIt · 23/04/2014 18:51

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