To think my Dad was being totally reckless when he took DS upstairs in our local department store via the....

[DollyDaisy]

escalator? DS is 8 months old and was in his pram at the time!

I was furious as thought Dad was following me to the store's lift. But apparently it was quicker to take the direct route and he just wedged the bugaboo onto the escalator and up they went.

Mum was horrified too.....but the DH couldn't see the problem either. Or are all men in my family just totally clueless?

I didn't say that gating off the stairs was less or more dangerous than not, I said that its a matter of individual perception and risk assessment. Mine may or may not be different to yours, but there is no one right answer. Thats the point I've been making all along that seems oddly difficult to grasp for many.

Make your own choices, I'll make mine. Just don't fool yourself that there is any kind of infallible rulebook, or that all instructions must be obeyed to keep safe. Use your experience, logic and common sense.

I fail to see why this is such a radical position.

have always taken (yrs ago) pram up escalators. it wasn't until she was about 3 i realised you weren't meant to ( ie noticed the sign) oops.

I said that its a matter of individual perception and risk assessment. Mine may or may not be different to yours, but there is no one right answer. Thats the point I've been making all along that seems oddly difficult to grasp for many.

The "no right answer" bit has to me been the most shocking thing running through this thread. There are very definitely right answers, there is hard data to that is at your fingertips, and that so many people apparently can't tell the difference in risk between cars, stairs and escalators etc etc to me is very worrying.

Was in London yesterday btw, there are no signs saying no buggies on escalators on the Tube (just as well as there were buggies galore on the escalators), they are mainly worried about unrestrained children, and keeping feet away from the edges - which makes sense as by far the most accidents with kids are with unrestrained kids, not buggies.

There is no right answer because we all make our risk assessments based on our perception of our own circumstances.

e.g. I take my DD in her buggy on escalators - I am strong and healthy, her pram is light, so I am confident that I will be able to keep her secure.

If I was post c/s or frail or had a twin buggy or whatever, I wouldn't do it.

Risk aversion is relevant, and sometimes, very rarely we will be unlucky and then hindsight will tell us it was a mistake. But that is also true of car journeys.

Thumbinnapuddingwitch that Raggedy Ann film was terrifying

It's a daft thing to do where there is an alternative.

I was one of the gung ho stick the pram on the escalator people on this thread and was a bit at all the worry. I went to Westfield on fri for some last minute shopping with DS but left DD at home do had no pram. DS only got went and got his shoelace mangled and totally stuck in the teeth at the top of the escalator! It was really scary and I will now be a lot more careful with both DC on them. My DS is 9 so don't really watch out for things like that anymore

The day our local h and m opened it had to shit because a small child got stuck in the escalator.

There are signs on them telling you not to take buggies on them.

It's like the idiots who put their children in the baskets of supermarket trollies.

Yes I am judge about this, anyone who did with my children when they were small would never have pushed that buggy again.

Pmsl @ h&m shitting