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to think that MIL should sell the house?

21 replies

PotterWatch · 09/12/2011 22:27

I'll try and keep it brief.

Step FIL left MIL in the middle of this year (can't remember exactly when). He has a long term illness that will only get worse and is really struggling to deal with it. He has apparently been unhappy for the last 2 years but it is only now that he has done something about it and that is to leave MIL.

At first I was sympathetic to MIL, it was a out of the blue for her (so she says but even if SFIL had given blatant clues she wouldn't have listened, she never does). I listened to her crying down the phone when I was trying to deal with DCs, I encouraged DH to go and see her more as she was lonely and upset.

Well now I am fucking fed up and feeling like we are being guilted and used. DH is also fed up but it is his mother so he tolerates a certain amount.

When she was with her ex, we barely heard from her, she would maybe ring once a month, see DH and the kids once a month, if that. Now she is needy and constantly wants to know when DH is going over. She has never been interested in what we do at Christmas as it was just her and her ex which is how she wanted it, now she is interested in what we are doing. I know part of the issue was her ex didn't see enough of his children and grandchild but MIL just wanted the 2 of them to go out and do things all the time and we only saw her when her ex was working.

Now she is moaning about how much money he may get in benefits (its not much at all) saying about he "he's going to be alright" when she works 15 hours a week, has no mortgage, still gets a pension from DHs dad who died and she was having an affair at the time - but she has no morals in spending that money each month 13 years later. She has over £50 per week to spend AFTER everything is paid but moans that she has no money and asks how is she going to pay for her bus fare and hair dye!

The house is half hers, half her ex. They paid it off with the money she got when her husband died and money that her new DH had so it is half his. He wants to sell the house. She doesn't. She wants him to have to spend money and said (laughing) that he will have to pay £500 to take her to court. Solicitor has told her that he can't force her to sell and she is beaming.

I know he left her but I can't believe how vindictive she is being. He is very ill, he wants to buy a 1 bed flat with the money from his house sale. She is moaning about not wanting to live in a flat and she can't afford to buy anything (she also has 30k sat in the bank). Now she is going to refuse to move and her her ex to take her to court just so he has to pay out more money.

I think she is being ridiculous. Surely the final outcome will be that the house has to be sold so all she is doing is dragging it out and desparately trying to inconvenience a sick man who she claims to love, unfortunately her doesn't love her anymore. His reason for leaving is "the love is gone" a nice way of telling her he doesn't love her but all she says is "I don't understand why he left".

I really did feel sorry for her and still do to a certain extent but I am getting really fed up with the neediness and tbh selfishness. There is more bits and pieces but trying to keep it shortish.

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IReallyHateMyCat · 09/12/2011 22:33

Well it's not your place to get involved but for what its worth I agree with you... I also love it when family exepct you to be there every second for them when they break up with their partners but couldnt give a fuck while they have someone

HecklerNotKoch · 09/12/2011 22:36

you sound pretty cold and cruel OP

if it were you whining on about your OH playing away, or your kids being brats, you would expect the whole world to stop and listen and smooth your hair. Poor you, woe is you

squeakytoy · 09/12/2011 22:36

Unless there are dependent children living in the house, I am fairly sure he could force a house sale actually.

Kayano · 09/12/2011 22:37

So her husband left her
Is now seriously ill
All of which will be a shock to her and you think she is UR I not want to also sell her house?! Really?!

And wtf with the no morals attitude because she inherited her deceased husbands pension?

You need to keep yourself out of her business. I wouldn't have anyone tell me to sell my house if DH left me. Tough would be my attitude

PotterWatch · 09/12/2011 22:38

I know its not our place to get involved at all. Believe me I would love to be kept in the dark tbh. She was on the phone to DH for 40 minutes the other night and didn't ask about the DCs once.

We have had some really shit times in our 11 years together. Not once has she ever been there but now we are expected to run around. SIL tells her straight, then she just cries and says "why are you being mean" she done the same to DH when he tried to tell her something and he was far more diplomatic than I am. He is actually thinking of letting me do the talking to her (not a great idea to someone who keeps crying and accusing people of being nasty if they try and get her to see sense).

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cantspel · 09/12/2011 22:40

was it her house before she married her ex or did they buy it and move into it together? If it was hers before then i can understand why she doesn't want to sell it.

Either way it is not really your business.

Liluri · 09/12/2011 22:40

I expect she is hurt, sad and lonely, and wants to punish her husband for leaving her.
It seems natural that she would turn to her family for support and understanding.
Perhaps she'll be more reasonable about the house once the initial shock has worn off - although perhaps she feels that she has lost so much already that to also lose her home seems a step too far.

PotterWatch · 09/12/2011 22:42

He was ill when they were together. It is getting worse and part of the issue. He needs to slow down and rest whereas she keeps wanting to go out all the time and as its what she wants to do, she doesn't listen to her ex. She also embarrasses him wrt his illness. She used to say things to me and DH in front of him and you could see he felt awful. She also made it obvious she doesn't like his children (grown up) and didn't particularly like them going around there much.

The no morals bit is because she was having an affair, her husband died, she got all his money, sold the house when DH was still living in it and he just had to fuck off and sort himself out without her even offering him somewhere until he got sorted. She also told DH about her affair 3 days after he watched his dad died. I know its all ancient history but it says a lot about what a person is like.

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Kayano · 09/12/2011 22:43

You should NOT be the one to talk to her as you are clearly pissed off with her and would only make it worse. It's up to DH and SIL but she shouldn't be forced to give up her home I think it is mean! She has lost a lot in 6 months and faces prospect of losing her ex who she prob was not over

whackamole · 09/12/2011 22:45

Not your business, but I can see how annoying it must be for you. OH's dad is like this - when everything is going his way we don't see him for months and months. 10 months was the longest. Then, suddenly when he needs something, he is dropping in (at inconvenient times, I might add) and offering babysitting etc which always comes with some sort of reciprocal financial favour.

PotterWatch · 09/12/2011 22:45

Her ex isn't going to die, it doesn't do that, just a long term health condition that will just get worse.

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PotterWatch · 09/12/2011 22:46

I won't really talk to her, I'm not that daft. SIL says it for all of us really but it doesn't stop MIL.

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Liluri · 09/12/2011 22:47

You clearly dislike her, so I'd suggest you keep out of the situation, as it's winding you up and causing you stress that isn't really necessary - whether she sells up or not doesn't really affect you, does it?
Ask your DH to deal with his mother without involving you and let them all get on with it. Smile

PotterWatch · 09/12/2011 22:51

She keeps wanting to know when I'm going over though. For the first time in 11 years and since I have had the kids she wants me to go over with them during the day. I am honestly avoiding it because it will stress me out as I will be seeing to the kids while she carries on talking even when I need to deal with them, my own health isn't great and I get drained very quickly and I don't want to snap and tell her to get a grip. I don't actually want to be nasty to her. When DH does go over with the kids I use that time to have some peace and quiet but DH says she keeps asking when I am going over. I showed a sympathetic side to her and now she thinks I will listen to her all the time.

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ShengdanRoad · 10/12/2011 01:43

You sound like the sort of person who has shallow, tit-for-tat relationships.

troisgarcons · 10/12/2011 06:25

The house is half hers, half her ex. They paid it off with the money she got when her husband died and money that her new DH had so it is half his.

her husband died, she got all his money, sold the house

Two conflicting statements there.

She sold the house she had with her husband and bought a new one with her Ex-P?

Well, that does make him entitled legally and morally to a proportion of it. Whether it's half is another matter, because none of us know who put what into the purchase.

However if that is a typos on your part and we are talking about the original house, then I don't see why she should morally sell it (although if he is on the deeds then she is legally obliged to) but she should reimburse his contribution to making it mortgage-free and give him his investment back.

iscream · 10/12/2011 06:35

Thanks trois, I was wondering if it was just me confused.

Sounds like he will have to let a judge sort it out.

HughBastard · 10/12/2011 06:45

I am not sure why it is puzzling you that she didn't need as much support from her family when she was with her husband as she does now he has left her. Of course she needs you more now. She is alone and lonely.

She doesn't sound like a very nice person, but neither do you. Perhaps you are at the end of your tether and coming across badly, but your OP is pretty harsh and heartless.

It is none of your business whether they sell the house or not.

Dozer · 10/12/2011 06:45

Stay out of it as much as possible. Just let it all wash over you when DH talks about it.

If you visit with the DC just go for a short time, make clear in advance (say you have lots on at home, or appointments, or DC have stuff or whatever) and just go faux-counsellor mode, eg "hmmm", "oh dear", nod, repeat things that she's said, "so, you feel worried about money" without giving an opinion or offering things, then get away when you can,

Sorting out the house is her/her partner's responsibility, don't even think about that.

Judge her all you like, and let off steam to a trusted friend, on here or wherever -you don't have to like her - but to support your dh reckon lip-service might help.

Dozer · 10/12/2011 06:50

Agree that the OP sound harsh, and judgmental, but the MIL does sound like a PITA and the OP's feelings about her seem to be based on MIL's treatment of her DH.

Also dislike the argument that just cos people who have previously been rubbish family members are old / sad / alone, everyone has to pander to them. Especially when there's no awareness on the MiL's part that she hasn't behaved well towards her son and his family in the past. Although the kind thing to do is to spend a bit more time with her, if the OP can stomach this!

Sloobreeus · 10/12/2011 07:08

If she wants to meet you and you feel that being at her house will stress you out, meet her in child-friendly cafe and say you feel it is so important for her to get out. It will be distracting and while she is talking you can watch your DCs, comment on what's going on around you watch that rather hot waiter. Distraction - where would we be without it? You MIL will maybe come to see that she would be better off in a smaller place which would be hers along. Splitting up with someone can be so hard - it turned me into a combination of the wicked queen and Cruella de Vil (without the puppy-fur coat). I calmed down after some months and normal service was resumed

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