DS travelling into London in a taxi with no car seat

[witherhills]

i know they don't have to have one, but it's quite a long journey, could be an hour, going into central London.

And ds is a wriggler, won't keep still
He's 4.
DH wants to take him in for some NZ concert

Should I make a fuss
I'm really anal about car seats, so not sure if I'm ott

Chipping
Taking DS on the tube is a bit of a nightmare
He's not SN, but recently I have been wondering.
He might just be going through a phase, but it's hard work.
I try and try, but he doesn't seem to listen
He races ahead, literally and figuratively speaking
he cannot keep still
it takes a lot for him to calm down

If he is above the weight limit for his harnessed seat you are putting him in more danger than you would be by putting him in a HBB. The harness is only tested up to the recommended weight, anything over that and the harness could fail.

If you are going to be anal about car seats at least do it properly

He's not over the weight limit thank you

RF is extremely comfortable . They are nice and high up so get a great view to boot. It is 5x safer in a front impact collision (by far the most common type of collision -70%), so if safety is your primary concern RF is the way to go.

Not sure why on earth you wouldn't be convinced HBB aren't safer in side impact collosions (or indeed any collision) ? They have a nice big cushion either side of the child's head, i.e. where they keep their brain. 25% collissions are side impact. Yes, pre-impact braking might make them no safer than a standard booster cushion, but that isn't a factor in every side impact collision, and they are at least as safe as a basic booster cushion. On what evidence are you basing your concern?

If you're worried about the extra weight of the seat (although as others have mentioned, seatbelts are designed to restrain adults), get an isofix high back booster, then the seat is secured to the car. A lot of those will recline (great if he ever sleeps in the car on an evening journey) and you don't have to strap the seat in if you drive without him in the car.

Book a cab that provide child seats. Any good one will do this. Problem solved. As for your car by a hbb with isofix. Plenty out there. Second problem solved.

Buy!

What about a HBB with built in harness? Like this?

Have never done link before, hope it works!

Moteavate- misleading sorry-I was just stating that, I didn't need to be convinced about hbb for side impact, my concern re hbb was about them not being secured in
Christmasnickname, there are lots of hbb with harnesses, the issue is that they all recommend moving to seat belt at 40lbs. I can't see it in those details but I'm sure it's there. That's the whole issue. The weight at 40lbs is too heavy for a harness.

I think isofix hbb or rf.

www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_824817_langId_-1_categoryId_165554#dtab I have these and they are great they have clips to guide seat belt so not that easy for them to wriggle out of and very light to carry folds the same size as a small handbag so easy to transport I childmind too and all children whether mine or mindees say they are very comfortable and because the shoulder clip is adjustable they are more secure than you think.

This site has video you can watch easycarseat.com/

Ah, I see . Isofix would reassure you then. You can get isofix RF seats too.

"Addison Lee are really expensive, but I guess dh is paying, so not my problem."...you are fucking seriously unreal and should be ashamed.

SO if at 40lb he is too heavy for a harness, he is heavy enough for a seatbelt? Sorry, I don't understand the issue, am probably being really thick!) DS2 is 5, but only 34lb so still in ff with harness. DS1 is 7 and I can't remember when we put him in a hbb! I

Littlegreenapples, there's a bigger story there, I didn't mean to sound so flippant. Trust me, you have no idea

Christmasnickname, the problem is I don't think DS can be trusted without a harness. It's him, not the car seats!

Ahhh! OK thanks!

Would something like this be anygood? Lots of people seem to be recommending them on a fb group I'm on. I don't know what weight the harness type thinfg is suitable until though!

littlegreenapples - why on earth should witherhills be ashamed? Her H wanted to take her DS somewhere, she wanted them to use the safest transport method. Clearly they have separate finances and she isn't that bothered that it will cost him more - I can't see anything to be ashamed of there

witherhills - sorry to hear you think DS may have some special needs :( I don't know what you have done already - but I'd definitely talk to his nursery/school to see what they think. An NT child of 4 is plenty old enough to be a lot more 'in control' than your DS seems to be, so it does seem like there might be something that he needs some help with. I hope things aren't too bad with your DH. In the meantime - if you need a bigger car seat and don't feel you can trust DS in a seat belt then maybe you'd be better off getting one of the car seats for children with SN - they're probably hugely expensive, but worth it for peace of mind - or a rear facing I guess, but to me they look hugely uncomfortable for a 4 year old, especially one who is used to being FF (it doesn't help that I can't abide travelling backwards, make me feel really sick!).

Thanks for the support Chipping, DH is a major issue right now, somehow it always comes through in my posts! I'm not ashamed of my comment although I can see how it can appear glib.

Re DS, I started a thread in SN and they have been supportive, made a GP appt this week for him