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AIBU to think that men are more generous than women

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Clossaintjacques · 04/12/2011 17:03

I run a small business and have just been looking at my detailed accounts for the last 3 years. It's the type of business where tipping isn't normal, expected or necessary. However, I do receive the occasional tip which is greatly appreciated and when I looked at which clients have tipped all of them have been male. The business is more or less 50/50 male female.

Are men just more generous than women.

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flyingspaghettimonster · 04/12/2011 17:53

I disagree. I have to add the tip at restaurants as hubby will make it the minimum expected, even down to pennies rather than rounding up. I think in your case it is just that women understand the etiquette of when to tip better than men, so less likely to tip you where a man might do it because he wasn't sure.

Clossaintjacques · 04/12/2011 17:58

Flying
Where is you DH from?

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EssentialFattyAcid · 04/12/2011 18:00

I am more generous than my dp
OP why are you trying to malign your own sex?

Clossaintjacques · 04/12/2011 18:00

Gate

I think you're right if you have ever worked in the service industry you are probably more likely to tip. It doesn't break the bank to leave a few quid but it makes such a difference to the staff member who is highly likely to be on a zero hours contract and minimum wage Smile

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Clossaintjacques · 04/12/2011 18:03

Essential

I was simply stating a fact that over thousand's of transactions I have only received tips from men, gay and straight.

I am not maligning my own sex. I just asked if it was a reasonable assumption to assume that men are more generous than women based upon my not small sample. Some people have put forward good arguments against which I have taken on board.

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Tmesis · 04/12/2011 18:06

I tip more than DH at restaurants. He tips more than me at hairdressers. I think we both tip about the same in taxis.

lottiegb · 04/12/2011 18:14

Hmm, certainly don't think you can generalise from your business to general behaviour. Is there a status aspect to the product / service you provide, or a perception of luxury, so that men might see it as a purchase they are proud of or want to be seen making, while women view it as part of their general expenditure? Are the men just richer? Is everyone spending their own money, or other people's e.g. their employers?

I know more men who are mean about tips. Of course there is confusion about when tipping is expected and frustration at 'service charges' being added automatically to bills in restaurants and perhaps men are more likely to be principled / get arsey about this while women try to smooth things along, perhaps, though I usually make a point of tipping in cash which covers both.

I have felt frustrated and embarrassed by a number of men who don't tip properly, when service has been good, usually because they are generally tight and a bit selfish, rather than not knowing it's expected. My view is that if you can't afford the tip you couldn't afford the meal and should have gone somewhere cheaper. Yes, I have worked as a waitress, though in those days and parts most people tipped a pound or two and had no concept of tipping 10% (I recall our amazement when some Americans came in and despite a very reasonable complaint about their meal, tipped 15%).

molly3478 · 04/12/2011 18:18

Most people I know tip a pound or two now lottie I dont think its changed much and I live in a big tourist town. You might get a fier if the person is either exceptionally pissed or been stayig at the hotel a whole week

Clossaintjacques · 04/12/2011 18:20

Lottie

My business is gadget related so you have probably hit the nail on the head.

I remember too when Americans used to come in to restaurants, we used to beeline to serve them Grin But if they were from certain parts of the UK we would go out back for a fag!! Only joking!

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Crosshair · 04/12/2011 18:20

I didnt relise a tip was compulsory when eating out. Shock

mayorquimby · 04/12/2011 18:22

I don't tip, my gf tips generously but in general I'd say the blokes I know are the bigger tippers.

molly3478 · 04/12/2011 18:23

I dont think it is in a lot of places crosshair I would say about 40% or lower of people tip in my town. If you go out in a huge group you might leave a couple of quid between the lot of you. It is dependant on culture of area I think.

Crosshair · 04/12/2011 18:31

We hardly ever eat out, so its abit of a minefield foe me. :)

LaurieFairyCake · 04/12/2011 18:34

My friends daughter is a waitress in a Harvester - she says more than 75% don't tip, the rest leave 20p or so, and only a tiny percentage tip a £1 or more.

If I go out I tend to tip about 10%, dh less as he just rounds up.

WilsonFrickett · 04/12/2011 18:38

There's no differennce to how DP and I tip in a restaurant/service industry. I get very confused about hairdressers/spas etc and tend not to tip as I don't want to get it wrong, maybe thats more common generally among women and might put them off tipping in places where it's not 'expected', like your business, OP?

lottiegb · 04/12/2011 18:42

Interesting. I don't think tips are compulsory when eating out, that's a service charge - though these are increasingly common and are usually 12.5%. I do think, if service has been good, in a restaurant with table service, especially if I have established any rapport with the waiter, or they have been particularly helpful, leaving a tip is reasonable and something I'd normally do, though not if service has been bad. I understand 10% to be the British norm, 15%+ in North America. Each to their own though.

I tip taxi drivers by rounding up, so a bit randomly, hairdressers not at all, though I used to but it doesn't seem to be encouraged by the place I go to.

confusedpixie · 04/12/2011 18:42

When I was waitressing I found that men would generally tip more often, but women would tip a higher percentage when they did leave a tip.

Personally, I tend to tip at least 10% as I have had to waitress before and know how lousy leaving without any tips is at the end of the night, especially when you've spent all night buttering up and dealing with (often ridiculous) requests from a large group and they think it's okay to leave a ten pence tip.

DP tips when I do but not when he's on his own.

charitygirl · 04/12/2011 18:45

A couple of quid between the lot of you, for a huge group?? Bloody hell.

spiderslegs · 04/12/2011 18:52

Crosshairs - fair enough, don't get used to thinking of it that way though, you're doing crucial work there.

I always tip my hairdresser or manicurist, taxis depending on how nice they are & restaurants depending on food & service, I always ask in restaurants though if adding it to the bill if the waiter/ess will get the tip, if they say no - tip in cash, & yes - at least 10%

molly3478 · 04/12/2011 18:57

Waitresses make more money than me charitygirl

Clossaintjacques · 04/12/2011 18:58

A few quid between a large group Xmas Shock are you kidding me?

The thing is that service is not included in most restaurants so if you don't tip you are effectively leaving the wait staff without much needed money.

Most restaurants will assume most people tip which is why such a hard job with unsociable hours doesn't pay more than minimum wage in the main. Other things we buy say for example you go to a motor garage the service/labour element will be charged and shown on the bill.

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molly3478 · 04/12/2011 19:02

I worked as a waitress for over 6 years on and off. everyone is doing a hard job for minimum wage it isnt expected from the lcoals here were all in same boat.

molly3478 · 04/12/2011 19:04

I will add though I saaw Jason Maford live for my birtdhay and he asked how much everyone tipped in the audience he said the gig he did at our tow is the lowest he had ever heard and said we were all tight. GrinHe should try living here!

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