about the uni lecturer and teenager who died on 'E'

[mebythesea]

I know its a terrible terrible thing to have happened, and i think that the man should never have left drugs in the house when he was away... But
Why has there been no mention of the fact that the teenagers involved were rummaging through his private stuf,draws and wardrobe? The drugs were found hidden in the back of his wardrobe, they werent left on the coffe table for all to access.
I just think that these teenagers were up to no good and what the hell were they doing going through the parents stuff? All the reporting has been about how terrible the man is, without any mention of the fact that the teenagers were obviously setting out to steal his property.

absolutly not crap, if they see parents stabbing each other and drinking bleach then they may be more likely to do that.

How can the teenagers make 'good descions' when surrounded by adults who think that is is ok to take drugs and leave underage teenagers to have a party unsupervised?

The man who the drugs belonged to was 61, why would the teen think that they were harmful, when he has been ok on them all of his life?

For reasons that posters have quoted, you are held reasonsible if you leave your car keys where your teen can get them, teens do stupid things, as do obviously their parents, in this case.

It looks as though he was sparred prison because of his suicide attempt.

This story would have been reported in a totally different way had the families involved lived on a council estate.

On Festi's point, that is why DV (amongst other things) is now flagged up by SS, because indeed children copy and think the actions by their parents are an acceptable way to live.

He is obviously setting an example to his DD by smoking marijuana as she knew he had it and was searching for it when they found the other drugs.
I have a 14 yr old DD and would leave her unsupervised if she had that type of party.

Yes, the teens were at fault for searching for and taking drugs (and drinking as well presumably).

He was at fault for allowing an unsupervised teenage party to happen in a house where he had stashed drugs though.

Ultimately, a man (parent) of 60 has more responsibility than children of 14 and 15.

I agree Mychilddoesnotsleep.

when I was 14 to 18 I was a regular user of E. when I was 16 there was high media coverage of a young girl who died at a party, I then realised that E was dangerouse, had never considered this before. SO I stopped mixing it with speed and acohol and drank a reasonable amout of water. that is poor clarity, that at 14 and 16 is understandable, how was I able to understand the context in which this girl died, I thought she drank too much water and so if I was not drunk and didnt drink too much water I would be safe.

The point is these kids whent looking for hash and uncovered something far more dangerous that did not have the capacity to judge, so they took it withb tragic consequences. HIs fault fault for having them in the house thus giving them the assumption it was safe to take.

At 18 I had more knowlegde and clarity so decided that if I wanted to acheive the things in life I am capable of then I should stop taking drugs.

My mother had no idea what I was taking, but with more knowledge her self she she would have, not allowing me to go to pubs etc at a young age and stay at other peoples houses with out making sure they were acceptable environments, would have gone some way to ensureing drugs where not readily available to me at 14. Had I died this would not have been caused directly by mother as I was not taking her drugs, however she would havehad to shoulder some of the responsibilty in her parenting decissions.

Im pretty sure my mother had no idea what exstacy was untill the media coverage of the girl who died.

The man seems mostly to have been guilty of stupidity. He was wrong (in my view) to be taking drugs in the first place, and even more wrong to have them in the house when he had a 14-year old daughter. Letting a 14-year old invite her friends around for a party without adult supervision would have been a terrible error of judgement, even without drugs in the house. He obviously feels awful guilt about the whole thing - he's clearly not a bad person, just a foolish one. I don't know how to judge someone like that. I feel irritation and exasperation, but would sending him to jail solve anything? I don't know. Perhaps the parents of the teenagers involved were also at fault for letting them go to an unsupervised party.

He didn't just let them have a unsupervised party, the parents left a group of 14 year olds and went away for the night. The alcohol was bought by the parents and they even warned the neighbours.

It was obviously a regular occurance because none of the neighbours thought to call the police when fights broke out after midnight.

One father who discovered that his son was there, picked him up at 11.30. So they hadn't check on who was allowed to go and who wasn't.

This was a man who took part in research including the rise of alcohol consumption in middle class children and drinking patterns in the UK. He was a former SW, his actions defy belief.

Often when you have kids in your home and drugs bad things tend to happen

Thats why people generally don't tend to do it.

Those who say teenagers know right from wrong maybe nit if their parents were dropping e all the frigging time.

When I heard this story I thought fancy having hard drugs in your hone when you have children

If the drugs weren't in the home in the first place this whole thing would not have happed

It was the fathers initial illegal act that led to this whole mess

So I guess the answer is follow the law and child protection don't have drugs in your home

Odd comparison OldGreyWassailTest re knives and bleach. What do you use them for? They are legitimate household items!