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Christmas angst already

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elephantsteaparty · 30/11/2011 09:43

Not sure whether this should go here or in relationships, so please don?t flame me. And apologies for length.

Background: My flatmate loves Christmas with a almost child-like passion. He?s trying to recreate the magic of his childhood Christmases, rather than the ones he suffered in his married, and divorced, life. So he?s bought lots of decorations, wants dinner with me before I go to my mothers, etc. We?ve always celebrated it at some point near the actual day, and always enjoyed it. Last year I was peeved that he put the decorations up in the two hours I?d gone to pay a friend a visit, as I?d wanted input in it, especially as I was staying here that year and not him, but never mind.

This year he?s staying here. He?s been playing Christmas music for the last month (on one time waking me up in the night it was on so loud) and basically been getting into the mood for a while. He?s been planning how he?s going to decorate for weeks, though I did ask if we could wait for November (which seemed reasonable to me!).

So last night he starts cleaning the house, throwing out a sofa we no longer need (he?s getting a replacement, but in the meantime there?s more room for the tree), but assured me he was only ?getting ready? to decorate. Part of the problem is he?s working away next week so reckons he doesn?t have much time to do it. But then he put up window decorations, and changed bulbs in the ceiling to coloured ones.

Now it was these bulbs which bugged me the most: they are bright and I knew I?d get a headache from them quickly, so I said I?d take them down whilst he?s away. But apparently I can?t, as they want work again. I MIGHT have said I?d remove them anyway, but probably wouldn?t have done so but just got a lamp. I work at the table in there, and was planning lots of studying whilst he?s away, but the room?s too dark to not have lights on, which is why I was peeved. They would have been bad enough just on, but trying to work with them ? no way.

Talking of work, I had an assignment I needed to do last night which I couldn?t do at the table, so I tried to work as best I could in my room. He told me he was going out to a friend who?d asked him over for a drink (tho? his phone didn?t go), only to come home 2 mins later as she wasn?t in. He then took to his room and put music on, which was annoying me, so I went down to his shed to study (there?s a chair, table, heat and light there so better than my room). Before I moved down there I realised he?d taken out the coloured bulbs which seemed a waste, but looked up replacements and checked with him (by text) that the ones I?d found would work. He told me to ?forget about it? as he?d changed his plans, and would just decorate his room and shed, as my thoughts re Christmas were different to his, and he no longer wanted to put anything up. He also said he wanted to go to his shed but couldn?t, as I was there. Yeah, having been driven out of the house.

I gave up and went for a long, long walk (as he obviously didn?t want me near him), not getting back til after he was in bed. I came home to find the window decorations removed. I know how much having them up meant to him, so his taking them down was a sure sign of his hurt.

So, who?s BU here? I KNOW Christmas means a lot to him, and more than anything want him to have a good one, but I?m alone in the house for 10 days and really don?t see why I had to put up with lights which would mean I couldn?t work where I need to when he wasn?t there to appreciate them anyway. But he?s now acting like a hormonal teenager (he?s late 40s, so anything but) and spoiling his owns plans to make a point. I?m feeling awful, walking on eggshells and can?t wait for him to leave.

Advice anyone?

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TroublesomeEx · 30/11/2011 09:51

He is.

I love Christmas and it starts for us this Friday.

But this would irritate me no end.

TroublesomeEx · 30/11/2011 09:52

That is 'he is being unreasonable. ' Grin

don't have any advice :(

glenthebattleostrich · 30/11/2011 09:57

He is BU.

I love Christmas, my DH doesn't (yes I'm married to the grinch!) so we compromise. I put the decorations up whilst he is at work, but we only have a tree, some tinsel around the picture frames / shelves and stockings. (if it was up to me alone we'd have the whole house looking like a santa's grotto!)

I would never put up coloured lights because my DH would hate them, never mind them giving him a headache.

FruStefanLindman · 30/11/2011 09:57

He is BU - and childish.

I think if I was being woken up in the night by Christmas music for the last month I would have already killed him Grin

Sorry, no advice either.

AKMD · 30/11/2011 09:58

HWBU with the lights and loud music at night but you could just let everything else go really. You've lived with him for over a year so know best how to approach him on it.

Can you study in your own room?

ChitChattingElf · 30/11/2011 10:02

He is BU and OTT!

There's Christmas decorations and there's Christmas House of Horror - seems he was going for the latter. Why couldn't he put up twinkling lights that plug in like everyone else and leave the normal lights alone???!!!

FantasticVoyage · 30/11/2011 10:16

Your flatmate sounds out and out mental, OP. Can you get him sectioned over the Christmas period?

elephantsteaparty · 30/11/2011 10:19

I'm really glad to hear that I'm not being unduly reasonable.

I've tried to be understanding. I didn't even complain at the time about the midnight wake up call, I just wandered in and hope he'd take a hint. I did mention it later in the day, when he was sober, but I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't happen again.

I can't study comfortably in my room - I don't have a table, just a freezer. I try to work on my bed but if I'm writing notes I need a flat surface, and why should I not be able to use the perfectly good table we have in the sitting room which doesn't otherwise get much use? I'd put up with the lights when he's back, but I had plans for when he's away, and it's not like he'd be benefitting then.

The thing that's got to me is how upset he was last night. This complete change of plans is ridiculous. Neither of us want no decorations up in the public space, and I have told him this, but he's now set against it. And I don't get his comment about going out for a drink last night. I'm pretty sure he was lying about being invited and don't know why.

I think the most worrying thing about it was that he had not been drinking. Every other time he's got upset over something he's had a few, but he'd had nothing last night. I know there's more to it than he's telling me, but there's nothing I can do about it. I just wish he'd snap out of it.

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elephantsteaparty · 30/11/2011 10:19

Fantastic: I need him around to feed my animals. Otherwise I'd consider it!

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squeakytoy · 30/11/2011 10:22

He sounds absolutely insane. No wonder he is divorced!

AMumInScotland · 30/11/2011 10:27

He is being unreasonable, petty and frankly odd!

If you are flatmates, then there ought ot be a sensible discussion of what is practical about decorations - being able to use the table and having enough light to work by trumps wanting coloured lightbulbs every time.

And now he's just throwing his toys out of the pram. You won't let him do exactly what he wants so he's having a tantrum. You are supposed to now make a fuss of him and tell him he can have whatever he wants. But as every parent knows, that's not the best way to handle a tantrum.

Seriously, do you have any options of getting a new flatmate in the new year? It doesn't sound like this is working out.

aldiwhore · 30/11/2011 10:54

Now I adore Christmas and the house is nearly a grotto BUT DH hates clutter so I accomodate his wishes (and staple gun everything to the walls instead) we have LOADS of lights about the place, but they don't replace the 'normal' lighting as that would irritate him (and probably me!) and they're not switched on all the time.

He's being VU. He's not considering your wishes at all, and not only that but he's changing your normal living space without agreement from you.

When you share space you have to be considerate I think, and you can always compromise - you have made allowances for him, he should do the same for you.

Let him sulk.

pictish · 30/11/2011 10:57

Yanbu...he sounds like a nut!

MissMogwi · 30/11/2011 11:19

YANBU he sounds like an oddball.

ChaoticAngel · 30/11/2011 11:32

He sounds like a spoilt, immature brat. Tell him to grow up.

As a pp said he's having a tantrum. The best way to deal with a tantrum is to ignore it.

girlywhirly · 30/11/2011 12:21

Is he taking any illicit substances, I'm trying to suggest a reason for his bizarre behaviour. Or there could be a mental health issue.

You know he's BU, completely self-centred and inconsiderate. It sounds as though he thinks by creating this wonderful Christmas everything will suddenly be alright with the world and he now finds that his fantasy isn't going the way he planned. Has he got secret feelings for you that mean your disapproval gets to him more than is normal do you think?

I'd be having serious thoughts about dissolving this flatshare, he sounds a real pain to live with.

FantasticVoyage · 30/11/2011 12:44

Maybe an overdose of Advocaat will cure his hyperyuletideitis?

elephantsteaparty · 30/11/2011 13:36

Thanks so much for all your replies. As some of you have said, it is rather tantrum like, so I suppose I shall wait and see if he comes out of it. To be fair he did make me coffee and toast this morning (tho' I didn't have the toast as I wasn't really hungry) even if he didn't tell me he had, so I think he's trying to make up for his behaviour.

It is just so out of character for him. I can rule out illicit substances, but it might be his mental health diminishing. He (and I) have had worries about that before so it wouldn't be a complete shock to find out he's having problems in that department. As for his having feelings for me - I doubt it. In fact he's told me often enough I'm too young for him, (which ok is not an outright denial) tho' he was hanging around me when we were out at the weekend which was noticeable.

I think I'm going to have to discuss it with him and find out what's really behind it all. If he knows. I'm not looking forward to that discussion!

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elephantsteaparty · 30/11/2011 13:37

One good thing that came out of this is that I've discovered what a really decent bloke my boss is. I turned up at his house at half nine last night, almost in tears, and he took me in, fed me whisky and kept me company for 2 hours. Never once did he ask what was wrong, so I didn't feel I had to tell him. And I've seen him today and he didn't mention it, as there was someone else in the room.

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Rhubarbgarden · 30/11/2011 14:30

I'd give him a chance in case this is just symptomatic of deeper problems. Wait till a good moment when neither of you has to rush off anywhere or do anything, make him a cuppa and gently explain that you are worried about him because his behaviour over the Christmas decorations was pretty nuclear. This wil give him a chance to explain himself and at the same time you are pointing out that his behaviour has been irrational. If he is defensive and petulant then you know this is purely a tantrum and can be treated with the contempt it deserves.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 30/11/2011 15:52

OP... You do sound nice! :)

Your housemate sounds like a 'Christmas Nutter'. My husband is exactly the same. I'm not like that at all and hearing him whilsting 'Happy Holiday's' from Holiday Inn from August onwards gets on my last nerve. I know that from December (he takes the WHOLE month of work), it will be like the North Pole here... I can't change him so I try to insulate myself a bit.

Can you work on a compromise - maybe HELP him decorate his room and shed, wear a daft hat and sing silly Christmas songs? Plan together your 'Christmas meal' and basically get 'on board' with the festivities just because?

I realise you're not a couple but when you have a Santa-wannabe in the house, it's easier to make a little compromise than deal with a face of woe.

Sympathies though... it's tough! Grin

elephantsteaparty · 30/11/2011 16:04

Lying witch: thank you. Am not often called nice!

The thing is, I'm not against the whole thing by any stretch of the imagination. I want a tree and decorations up, I just don't want it quite yet. I want to help (was peeved last year when he did it all himself).

Being woken up in the middle of the night cos he's found Christmas music on the radio at the end of October does not impress me. Nor does being forced out of the place I study at because I can't stand the lighting. However even that I'd go along with after the weekend following this one as I'll stop trying to work in the evenings then. But as I have 2 weekends with 5 nights in between where I'll be on my own I really, really wanted to be able to sit at the table, have my books spread around me, and WORK.

I think I'll try Rhubarb's approach and see if I can't get to the bottom of this. I've known him for over 7 years and never seen this sort of behaviour from him. He's over-reacted to things when he's had a drink in him, but he was stone cold sober last night.

Hopefully the replacement bulbs will come tomorrow, so I shall use that as a peace offering and see if that gets me anywhere. I hate him being like this. I know what his life used to be like and I'd do anything to give him the Christmas he wants. But why now, when he can't appreciate it for 10 days or so? If he was going to be here I'd have put up with it.

And the other problem is that he's always said I could never hurt him. But I seem to have managed it somehow. :-(

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LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 30/11/2011 16:11

Well you do sound nice... elephantsteaparty, you're taking a lot of thought and consideration over this.

People who say "oh you could NEVER hurt me" are the ones who are trying to protect themselves from being hurt. They're actually quite easy to hurt and feel things very keenly - imagined or real.

What do you NEED? You need a proper light to work in. How is that best accomplished? Can you get a lamp with a suitable light for you, so as to leave the 'coloured lights' in (gawd help us... Grin)?

Can you come to some agreement that you both share the house, you love Christmas too but it's not Christmas if it starts before 'x' date, it's just commercialism before then... and it spoils the nice festive atmosphere when it's too early.. can you say something like that? Pick a date when you will both have a lovely time putting up decorations, making it clear that you like to do it also and it's not fair for him to do that by himself. How would HE like it?

Play him at his own game a little... take control of Christmas, he's not the 'boss of it'.

elephantsteaparty · 30/11/2011 16:41

Lying, I'm not sure whether you're making me laugh or cry. Which is a tad awkward seeing as how I'm at work and not supposed to be on MN!

If I'd realised the reaction I was going to get I would have kept my big gob shut and bought a standard lamp. He's already taken the coloured lights out, which is why I've had to buy replacements (he was so excited about them I just had to).

I know he's been badly hurt in the past but I've always assumed that he cares too little about me to be hurt by anything I say. The stupid thing is that it's me who's been hurt by thoughtless things he's said in the past when drunk, things that, although I know he doesn't mean them, are actually true to some extent.

I just wish I could go back 24 hours and sew my gob shut. I really do. I'd rather have a headache from now to mid Jan than have him this upset.

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LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 30/11/2011 17:06

Do you think, elephantsteaparty, that your housemate might actually fancy you more than you think? I'm getting vibes that he sees you as more than a housemate and possibly a replacement to 'make up' for his failed marriage?

It's odd for a grown-up to get that prescriptive and upset about what another largely unconnected person feels or does about Christmas or any other holiday event. I think that he might see you as a 'partner' even if it's not in the true sense of the word, but he treats you like one and gets hurt in the same way because he has deeper feelings for you. He knows that deep down you don't feel the same and you're not leading him on, but if he never 'pushes it', you won't make him face that.

I don't think you need to 'sew your gob shut' but I think you might need to make it very clear that you and he are housemates and you really, really value that as friends are hard to come by... you know the drill. I think there's a reson why he's not coming with you to your mothers... it's either that he would make you terribly uncomfortable or that he would 'slot in' like partner and cramp your style, which isn't what you want.

Treat him like a friend, you don't have to defer to him, give him a friendly punch in the arm and tell him to suck it up - housemates have to learn to rub along together, not behave like prima-donna drama-llamas...

Shall I send my husband up to have Christmas with him or do you think they would become competitive over it? Grin

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